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BodyButter said:
I like Leo (I don't like FG) and I think he's exactly the right guy to be in charge at a time like this (thank God those clowns from SF aren't). Still, he was foolish to put WW2 references into the speech. This isn't a war, it's a pandemic. People are already panicking. He needs to calm them down, not have them reaching for their tin hats.
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Yeah, I've seen a few now using the war analogy, hardly helpful is it?

I do think Leo is alright (and agree about the rest), I think he's an actual doctor himself too which maybe gives him a bit more perspective and he can use his bedside manner on the people.

It's just funny how much he's rocking the main stage tonight (I've seen Twitter), when only a few months ago almost the whole country was laughing at how bad he did in the election.
 
Stephen Jay Hawkings said:
Right, so you get rent paid along with the welfare money, is that how it works? In Ireland you have to apply separately for rent allowance, which used to be easy but now is a pain in the arse, and I'd know because I had to when I went back to college. I think it covers roughly 60% of the monthly rent.
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It depends which benefit your on SJH! If your on any element of Universal Credit you get your allowance plus your rent on top. Your rent is paid direct to you to pay your landlord. You then have to claim your council tax separately.

If your still on the old style ESA, which is sick pay for those who haven't been transferred to the new style Universal Credit or/and won't be, then you fill in a form separately for your rent and council tax. This is paid directly to the council

Rent is paid variable. If you have the right number of bedrooms then you won't pay any bedroom tax, providing your in social housing.

If you have to pay for a bedroom whether your on ESA or U.C it is £12 per week approx for the first bedroom, rising to £24, if you have 2 unused bedrooms.

If your in private rented there is an allowance based on social housing rents as to what you will get each week. Private landlords charge more than social housing hence

So if your rent is £120 a week for one bedroom private rented place, your local authority only.pay £96 per week for rent, you have to make up the shortfall in rent.

If you have an extra spare room in private rent you will also have to.pay on top the bedroom tax too

Confused: you will be
 
kefkat said:
It depends which benefit your on SJH! If your on any element of Universal Credit you get your allowance plus your rent on top. Your rent is paid direct to you to pay your landlord. You then have to claim your council tax separately.

If your still on the old style ESA, which is sick pay for those who haven't been transferred to the new style Universal Credit or/and won't be, then you fill in a form separately for your rent and council tax. This is paid directly to the council

Rent is paid variable. If you have the right number of bedrooms then you won't pay any bedroom tax, providing your in social housing.

If you have to pay for a bedroom whether your on ESA or U.C it is £12 per week approx for the first bedroom, rising to £24, if you have 2 unused bedrooms.

If your in private rented there is an allowance based on social housing rents as to what you will get each week. Private landlords charge more than social housing hence

So if your rent is £120 a week for one bedroom private rented place, your local authority only.pay £96 per week for rent, you have to make up the shortfall in rent.

If you have an extra spare room in private rent you will also have to.pay on top the bedroom tax too

Confused: you will be
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lol KK, confused is right.

Seems to be a lot different in Ireland, although I don't know all the ins and outs, as all I've been dealing with is back to education allowance. Obviously there are differences in other areas ie. single mothers, disability etc.

But interesting to see the differences :thumbup:
 
Stephen Jay Hawkings said:
Yeah, I've seen a few now using the war analogy, hardly helpful is it?

I do think Leo is alright (and agree about the rest), I think he's an actual doctor himself too which maybe gives him a bit more perspective and he can use his bedside manner on the people.

It's just funny how much he's rocking the main stage tonight (I've seen Twitter), when only a few months ago almost the whole country was laughing at how bad he did in the election.
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I don’t know anything about Leo, although he seems pretty good at what he does in the box this side - a bit like Sturgeon, love or hate her.

The thing Churchill taught us in the U.K., is that a certain type of leader is better in different situations. I believe Churchill was described a useless chancellor before becoming PM, and didn’t fare well after.

I think Bojo is far from the right leader in a situation as bad as this especially with his media loving family who enjoy the limelight as much as he does - he needed a 5 year stint with not a lot happening where he could spunk some money on a dual carriageway bridge across Tenbury wells and that would be the biggest fuck up. I guess the war references make people sit up and understand how serious the situation can get.

It’s a huge shock for us modern world softies who haven’t seen anything like this, only a few at the top end of the scale will have seen measures as drastic as this. Not even my parents - who have lived through the worst conditions in the world, 13% interest rates in the 70’s 🙄 - will have seen something as drastic as this.

It’ll be amusing in a year when we look back on it, but world travel may have to change. Terrorism changed world travel, it’s harder and longer to get into and out of countries with the restrictions, maybe air travel we’ll be heat checked before boarding and when arriving?

I’d be all for it, and it’s one way to make the Chinese pay.
 
Sainsbury taking actions:

Dear Jonathan,
I wrote to you last week to tell you about some of the steps we are taking to support increased demand for food and other essential items.
After I wrote to you last week, many of you replied. You wrote to share your concerns about our elderly and vulnerable customers and to ask if we can do more to restrict the number of items each person can buy. I have listened to feedback from you and from Sainsbury's colleagues across the country and wanted to share some of the extra steps we are taking to make sure everyone has access to the items that they need:
A number of you suggested that we reserve an hour in stores for elderly and vulnerable customers. In response to this request, we will set aside the first hour in every supermarket this Thursday 19th March, for elderly and vulnerable customers. I hope that you can respect this decision and will work with us as we try our best to help those that need it the most. If you or an elderly family member, friend or neighbour would like to shop during this hour, please check online for your local supermarket opening hours.
We will also help elderly and vulnerable customers access food online. From Monday 23rd March, our online customers who are over 70 years of age or have a disability will have priority access to online delivery slots. We will contact these customers in the coming days with more details.
For any online customer who can travel to our stores, from Monday 23rd March, we will operate an expanded 'click and collect' service. We are significantly increasing the number of collection sites across the country over the coming days in preparation for this. Customers can place their order online as usual and pick it up from a collection point in the store car park. We believe this will also work for people who are self-isolating.
As we work to feed the nation, we are also focusing all of our efforts on getting as much food and other essential items from our suppliers, into our warehouses and onto shelves as we possibly can. We still have enough food for everyone - if we all just buy what we need for us and our families.
To help us get more essential items onto the shelves, from this Thursday 19th March, we will be closing our cafes and our meat, fish and pizza counters in supermarkets. This means we can free up warehouse and lorry capacity for products that customers really need. It will also free up time for our store colleagues to focus on keeping the shelves as well stocked as possible.
I mentioned last week that we had put limits on a very small number of products. Following feedback from our customers and from our store colleagues, we have decided to put restrictions on a larger number of products. From tomorrow, Wednesday 18th March, customers will be able to buy a maximum of three of any grocery product and a maximum of two on the most popular products including toilet paper, soap and UHT milk. We have enough food coming into the system, but are limiting sales so that it stays on shelves for longer and can be bought by a larger numbers of customers.
Finally, I wanted to end by saying a huge thank you to Sainsbury's colleagues across the business. Everyone is working flat out in difficult circumstances to do their best to serve our customers. If you're able to say thank you to them when you see them, I know they would hugely appreciate it.
Best wishes

Mike
 
The Fear said:
Sainsbury taking actions:

Dear Jonathan,
I wrote to you last week to tell you about some of the steps we are taking to support increased demand for food and other essential items.
After I wrote to you last week, many of you replied. You wrote to share your concerns about our elderly and vulnerable customers and to ask if we can do more to restrict the number of items each person can buy. I have listened to feedback from you and from Sainsbury's colleagues across the country and wanted to share some of the extra steps we are taking to make sure everyone has access to the items that they need:
A number of you suggested that we reserve an hour in stores for elderly and vulnerable customers. In response to this request, we will set aside the first hour in every supermarket this Thursday 19th March, for elderly and vulnerable customers. I hope that you can respect this decision and will work with us as we try our best to help those that need it the most. If you or an elderly family member, friend or neighbour would like to shop during this hour, please check online for your local supermarket opening hours.
We will also help elderly and vulnerable customers access food online. From Monday 23rd March, our online customers who are over 70 years of age or have a disability will have priority access to online delivery slots. We will contact these customers in the coming days with more details.
For any online customer who can travel to our stores, from Monday 23rd March, we will operate an expanded 'click and collect' service. We are significantly increasing the number of collection sites across the country over the coming days in preparation for this. Customers can place their order online as usual and pick it up from a collection point in the store car park. We believe this will also work for people who are self-isolating.
As we work to feed the nation, we are also focusing all of our efforts on getting as much food and other essential items from our suppliers, into our warehouses and onto shelves as we possibly can. We still have enough food for everyone - if we all just buy what we need for us and our families.
To help us get more essential items onto the shelves, from this Thursday 19th March, we will be closing our cafes and our meat, fish and pizza counters in supermarkets. This means we can free up warehouse and lorry capacity for products that customers really need. It will also free up time for our store colleagues to focus on keeping the shelves as well stocked as possible.
I mentioned last week that we had put limits on a very small number of products. Following feedback from our customers and from our store colleagues, we have decided to put restrictions on a larger number of products. From tomorrow, Wednesday 18th March, customers will be able to buy a maximum of three of any grocery product and a maximum of two on the most popular products including toilet paper, soap and UHT milk. We have enough food coming into the system, but are limiting sales so that it stays on shelves for longer and can be bought by a larger numbers of customers.
Finally, I wanted to end by saying a huge thank you to Sainsbury's colleagues across the business. Everyone is working flat out in difficult circumstances to do their best to serve our customers. If you're able to say thank you to them when you see them, I know they would hugely appreciate it.
Best wishes

Mike
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Of all of the people they could have got to write that email, Fieldy would have been my last choice. Only he could make 5 paragraphs out of one sentence.
 
I have seen a map of the world showing the infected countries. The African continent has hardly any with most countries not affected at all. So I have decided the most sensible thing to do is to move to Libya. That way I am unlikely to become infected.
 
It’s unbelievable how little Russia and India have been affected, as geographically they have much more Chinese travel than us. Us Europeans should’ve been ruthless from the start of the year with foreign travellers.
 
danvilla2 said:
I don’t know anything about Leo, although he seems pretty good at what he does in the box this side - a bit like Sturgeon, love or hate her.

The thing Churchill taught us in the U.K., is that a certain type of leader is better in different situations. I believe Churchill was described a useless chancellor before becoming PM, and didn’t fare well after.

I think Bojo is far from the right leader in a situation as bad as this especially with his media loving family who enjoy the limelight as much as he does - he needed a 5 year stint with not a lot happening where he could spunk some money on a dual carriageway bridge across Tenbury wells and that would be the biggest fuck up. I guess the war references make people sit up and understand how serious the situation can get.

It’s a huge shock for us modern world softies who haven’t seen anything like this, only a few at the top end of the scale will have seen measures as drastic as this. Not even my parents - who have lived through the worst conditions in the world, 13% interest rates in the 70’s 🙄 - will have seen something as drastic as this.

It’ll be amusing in a year when we look back on it, but world travel may have to change. Terrorism changed world travel, it’s harder and longer to get into and out of countries with the restrictions, maybe air travel we’ll be heat checked before boarding and when arriving?

I’d be all for it, and it’s one way to make the Chinese pay.
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Leo is a very competent guy but he's a neo-liberal. He's the most right-wing gay I've every seen. He never made any effort to solve Ireland's housing crisis despite managing the economy well in general and getting through Brexit okay.

As for the Chinese, why do they have to pay?
 
astonion2 said:
I have seen a map of the world showing the infected countries. The African continent has hardly any with most countries not affected at all. So I have decided the most sensible thing to do is to move to Libya. That way I am unlikely to become infected.
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I wonder if they are just not testing for it. There are lots of Chinese businessmen in Africa.
 
BodyButter said:
As for the Chinese, why do they have to pay?
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Well they don’t have to pay it’s at their discretion, but it’s huge leverage for Trump in a trade deal. We won’t get a penny of compensation, the EU will have some power as a collective force.

Their people have created a crisis which has stopped the western world economy, whilst I don’t think we have handled it well, we aren’t eating anything with a pulse creating diseases like this.

The health impact is small relatively speaking, if this virus goes round in cycles then that’s a whole new ball game.

I don’t like the Chinese attitude to animals personally but it’s their culture and usually I live with that view. However, when they put the health of the world at risk and the economic shocks from this will result in many people suffering in some form - they should have to pay a penalty.

They are already distancing themselves from the “Wuhan virus” and I read (might have been on here) they are changing the rules on animal markets in the mainland - two signs of guilt.
 
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