SE1_Gills
Vital 1st Team Regular
I voted in Southwark too. Lib Dems, the only party that actually tries to/ does anything in "North Bermondsey".
Are you voting where you are?
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I voted in Southwark too. Lib Dems, the only party that actually tries to/ does anything in "North Bermondsey".
TheRealMustafa
Vital Youth Team
Have twice voted LibDem here in this Tory stronghold (Essex), and felt terrible both times. This time went Green, and although equally pointless, don't feel too bad about it.
MedwayModernist
Vital Squad Member
Plenty of the last council elections were in 2017 when that anti May wave came across and labour did v well, so to improve from there is a positive.
Turnouts for councils are always terrible, politics is dominated by Westminster, and the vote in this election doesn't threaten anyone's seat, so I understand the apathy.
chris who
Vital Champions League
The council elections appear to show thus far that the Tories are beating themselves with all opposition winning seats as a result. Possibly shows lack of turn out for Tory voters and or tactical voting. Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland should be interesting.
Therealwaldo
Vital Squad Member
A lot of those opposed to the Tories have been arguing for a progressive alliance or electoral pact. Alternatively people have been making their own decision on who is most likely to oust the Tories locally. Inevitably this means that gains have been spread amongst the opposition parties. To treat this as some kind of failure for Labour is a bit naive. I’m sure that those that want the Tories gone won’t care a fig about how a Commons majority is made up if it contains a combination of Labour, Lib Dems, Greens, Plaid Cymru and (for now) SNP.
chris who
Vital Champions League
Currently the Tories have just over 600 Councillors.While the Liberal Democrats, Green's and Residents make up about 450.That is a staggering result. It shows that if the opposition can get there act together then the Tories have a massive job to do convincing people to vote for them in enough numbers next general election.
As far as how different parties work together their is at least a conversations to be had .Potentially the job is now doable it needs a bit of flexibility I think the majority of the public might be willing to see some sort of pact as long as it was only in unwinnable seats.But Kier Starmer and other leaders would be hard pressed to sell the idea to their members .So my guess is that the Liberal Democrats and Green parties will get closer ties. Meanwhile Labour will continue to fight everyone which could be enough to keep the Tories in power next time.
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GillsBluenose
Vital Football Hero
On Breakfast news, Ed Davey was bigging up LibDem's prospects in Tory held seats at the next GE, because they came second in so many of them last time.
With no proper socialist representation in the country, maybe the LibDems and Greens can cause another coalition. I actually think that mostly worked quite well last time, with one party curbing the excesses of the other.
With no proper socialist representation in the country, maybe the LibDems and Greens can cause another coalition. I actually think that mostly worked quite well last time, with one party curbing the excesses of the other.
chris who
Vital Champions League
I can't see the Liberal Democrats getting a big break through under steady Eddy .A good bloke in my book who will make gains. But the Liberal Democrats are a minority party possibly always the protest vote party .Unless they can get a leader who captures the heart of the people .Possibly Paddy Ashdown came closer than any one.If Ed Davey can get anything like the numbers that Ashdown got it would need to be a major defeat for the Tories.That currently doesn't look likely.
chris who
Vital Champions League
The opposition parties in my view should seriously consider a election pact .Similar to what the Tories had with the Brexit party .The Labour Party stand down in places like Winchester in return for the Liberal Democrats standing down in a Labour target seat where the Liberal Democrats vote simply splits the vote.
If the result is that the Tories get less seats then the opposition is stronger if they get into government. If Labour win a majority with a few more seats it means a more stable government. If it is a hung parliament both or all the current opposition parties would be better placed to negotiate a fair and constructive deal.
PuB
Vital 1st Team Regular
I think there’s precious little chance of Boris being PM by the time of the next election. Doesn’t even matter who you vote for or prefer, the Prime Minister is unfit for office.
There have been a few staggering results so far. Good.
chris who
Vital Champions League
The question for Tories who voted for their party did they do so in support of those locally or national politics or a bit of both?
If the loyalty was more down to local councils then Boris is in big trouble. Feelings will be running high among long standing ex councillors. If they start campaigning for his removal or staying they will I believe hold the balance or power .If they can persuade any of the major players within the party he has to go then Boris could face a genuine leadership challenge. If not he may simply face a stalking horse type candidate simply aimed at trying to achieve a real challenge.
Jerryattrick
Vital Football Hero
Mid term local election and the incumbents get a kicking - never happened before lol.
even with a low turn out and all of the f ups of the torys its small fry mainly helped by the media.
big difference when its a GE and the media and establishment back their team. With boris gone and Labour being slaughtered by the media it will be business as usual ( smaller tory majority). Does anyone think the media will raise the corruption or incompetence of the torys?
still it will be harder to criticise opposition party policies as - 'do they have any' lol.
its alright voting together to get rid of the Tory's but what exactly will replace them, more trans or 'tory+ policies, certainly will be anything substantial, lets face it socialism of any degree is dead.
when labour complain that the torys are upping the NI to improve services (traditional labour policy) then its all over.
even with a low turn out and all of the f ups of the torys its small fry mainly helped by the media.
big difference when its a GE and the media and establishment back their team. With boris gone and Labour being slaughtered by the media it will be business as usual ( smaller tory majority). Does anyone think the media will raise the corruption or incompetence of the torys?
still it will be harder to criticise opposition party policies as - 'do they have any' lol.
its alright voting together to get rid of the Tory's but what exactly will replace them, more trans or 'tory+ policies, certainly will be anything substantial, lets face it socialism of any degree is dead.
when labour complain that the torys are upping the NI to improve services (traditional labour policy) then its all over.
