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Antonio Conte - (Sacked) Manager Thread

Was Conte's time as head coach a success/failure?

  • Success

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Failure

    Votes: 4 28.6%
  • Neither - just more wasted time

    Votes: 10 71.4%

  • Total voters
    14
Simple question to your quote meee93....Why?
This sounds more like Levy than Paratici.
Sorry both, spent most of yesterday and last night in hospital so my heads away with it (everything is now ok), but I don't follow.
Pompey, why what? My guess is you're asking the same as me of why Conte can be hired now but not the summer? It is a strange one. As Muttley suggests, perhaps Paratici's connections are again working a charm.
80, are you suggesting that Levy is the one behind both the sacking of Nuno and (once again) the hiring of the new manager? That's concerning if that's the case. Also makes you question what the point in Paratici actually is then if Levy is so involved.
 
Sorry both, spent most of yesterday and last night in hospital so my heads away with it (everything is now ok), but I don't follow.
Pompey, why what? My guess is you're asking the same as me of why Conte can be hired now but not the summer? It is a strange one. As Muttley suggests, perhaps Paratici's connections are again working a charm.
80, are you suggesting that Levy is the one behind both the sacking of Nuno and (once again) the hiring of the new manager? That's concerning if that's the case. Also makes you question what the point in Paratici actually is then if Levy is so involved.

Hope you're better. I should be in hospital with my head - but it was self-inflicted, so another day and it will be clear.

But to answer the question;

It could be as simple as Conte wanted to take a break, but also we weren't prepared to give him everything he was demanding, and now that no one has kicked down his door from a top club, he just wants to get back in the game., so both sides will now compromise to get what they want.
 
Levys hard bargainer reputation is getting a bashing. He's getting fleeced over and over by managers and their coaching teams, Kane is taking the piss, Paratici probably will and now Conte will do the same, take the money and run.
How much have these manager and staff pay offs cost ?
We could have kept Poch and used the money to buy players.
 
Sorry both, spent most of yesterday and last night in hospital so my heads away with it (everything is now ok), but I don't follow.
Pompey, why what? My guess is you're asking the same as me of why Conte can be hired now but not the summer? It is a strange one. As Muttley suggests, perhaps Paratici's connections are again working a charm.
80, are you suggesting that Levy is the one behind both the sacking of Nuno and (once again) the hiring of the new manager? That's concerning if that's the case. Also makes you question what the point in Paratici actually is then if Levy is so involved.


No, I was suggesting, guessing would be a better word, that Levy would interfere and hire Conte in a panic decision. If it is Paratici hiring him then I won't have any qualms about it because Paratici will manage it properly with his eyes wide open. Fabio will want to limit any damage but he needs to expunge the bad karma surrounding Spurs right now.
 
This is what Conte said to Thierry Henry in an interview "So if someone doesn't have a good attitude, good behaviour, I prefer to kill him!" 😂
Some of our Prima Donna's are going to get a rude awakening which is no bad thing.
It doesn't look like he suffers fools so maybe some of our lot will be up for the fight and will get re-energised.

This is from Chiellini too "When you finish training, you are dead. Not tired — dead. You can do it only because you believe in what he does. We had 40 days in France and it was like entering another world. You are 100% with him. He creates an atmosphere, everyone gives energy to each other. For sure he is one of the very best."

I am intrigued as to who will step up to the challenge should he arrive here

Unfortunately there will be a few that don't make the cut.

If it happens it will be interesting.

With Levy no one will make it so we might as well try the best available and give it a go.
 
I predict carnage and a player revolt even bigger than it already is. Its going to be a rough ride. Our players aren't good enough for Conte.
 
I don't know how this is going to turn out - badly, probably, in the long term - but all the jibes, the sneering, the mocking from the Gooners, Chavs and Spammers recently; well that's all stopped and suddenly they're worried. Well maybe not the Chavs. Worried that is. But a lot of clubs and fans of other clubs will be pissed at this appointment.
 
Sorry both, spent most of yesterday and last night in hospital so my heads away with it (everything is now ok), but I don't follow.
Pompey, why what? My guess is you're asking the same as me of why Conte can be hired now but not the summer? It is a strange one. As Muttley suggests, perhaps Paratici's connections are again working a charm.
80, are you suggesting that Levy is the one behind both the sacking of Nuno and (once again) the hiring of the new manager? That's concerning if that's the case. Also makes you question what the point in Paratici actually is then if Levy is so involved.
The reason I asked why? is because of the line "this appointment will end like Jose's, in chaos" you wrote.
 
Unfortunately there will be a few that don't make the cut.

If it happens it will be interesting.

With Levy no one will make it so we might as well try the best available and give it a go.

The "cut line" conversation is interesting. The line belongs to Fabio and the 1st team coach only gets to provide feedback for when the transfer window is open. For the rest of the time, he has to optimise what he's given. These next 2 months will be telling how he does that.

As good as Eriksen is, it took him ages under Conte to break into the 1st team. Conte wasn't having anything to do with the Eriksen that left Spurs in the Jan window. The over inflated ego, the laziness and the lack of mental strength. He sat on the bench in the EL final and was a late sub only. Then last season, Eriksen was sensational as he knew he had to knuckle down and win his place. Conte snapped Eriksen out his his self inflicted malaise and ego.

Gets you thinking about a few of ours.
 
The reason I asked why? is because of the line "this appointment will end like Jose's, in chaos" you wrote.
Because it's standard practice with Conte. He asks so much of the club that inevitably the club can't meet his demands. Now imagine that but now with a club that is run financially very strictly. It will only be a matter of time. We can only hope that he gets a trophy before the fall out.
 
hmm, a couple in the club are pouring cold water on Conte being appointed quickly.
Ex, should we all get ready for a let down again? are we counting our chickens or should that be cockerels lol! will things come home to roost?
 
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...e-spurs-courting-one-best-business-will-work/




In Antonio Conte, Spurs are courting one of the best in the business - and this is why it will work
There are few doubts over the Italian's pedigree or his ability to get teams over the line - he will kick Spurs' cosy environment into shape

Matt Law
Football News Correspondent
1 November 2021 • 3:56pm
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For too long, too many Tottenham Hotspur players have had an excuse. Things had become stale under Mauricio Pochettino. Jose Mourinho was past his best. Nuno Espirito Santo was never good enough.
Rightly or wrongly, these were all reasons the club’s under-performers could point to as soon as results dipped or things started to get tough over the past two years or so.
But, now, with Antonio Conte coming in to replace Nuno, the excuses have been stripped away and if the players fail again then, this time, there can be no debate: it will be on them.
There are no doubts over his relevance or his ability to get his teams over the line and there can certainly be no questioning Conte’s pedigree. He’s made the best even better and won everywhere he’s been.
Just ask Romelu Lukaku, who became a world-class striker under Conte; or Cesc Fabregas, who admitted the Italian took his game to a place he did not believe it could go; or Leonardo Bonucci, who credits Conte with changing the path of his career. This list goes on.
And if any of the Tottenham players are in any doubt about how things will be under Conte, they need only refer to an interview he did with Thierry Henry, who was a team-mate of the former midfielder at Juventus.
“I always talk about education and respect,” said Conte. “I demand this. I give this. But I demand this. And if someone hasn’t a good attitude in the training session or good behaviour in different circumstances, I prefer to kill him.”
Players do not have to like Conte, certainly not at first, to prosper under him. Fabregas was unhappy with being initially rotated and dropped after the 52-year-old arrived at Chelsea and demanded he cover more ground.
But the Spaniard was clever enough to quickly realise that it was Conte’s way or no way at all for him at Stamford Bridge and now claims he became a player he did not know he could be under the former Italy manager.
Fabregas was an integral part of Conte’s Premier League-winning Chelsea team, providing assist after assist for Diego Costa who was famously told he could leave the club by text message.

Costa had been Chelsea’s top scorer, but, having tried to force a January move to China, the striker was no longer trusted as a man Conte could rely upon. Would Harry Kane have been so bold to extend his summer holiday had Conte, rather than Nuno, been in charge at the time? Unlikely, one would have thought.
If the environment has been a little too cosy for a few at Tottenham over recent years, then they can expect a nasty shock - no matter their name or profile.
A combustible character, Conte’s relationship with chairman Daniel Levy, who has generally backed his players over his managers, will be fascinating.
But there is another lesson to be learned from Conte’s time at Chelsea that would suggest that he and Levy will not be fighting running battles - not at first at least.
During Conte’s first and most successful year in charge of Chelsea, he had Michael Emenalo, the club’s technical director at the time and a man who holds a degree in international relations and diplomacy, to sound off to.
One of Conte’s regrets from his time in West London was that, at first, he did not fully trust Emenalo, who eventually became an important peacekeeper between the head coach and the board.
It was after Emenalo’s departure that Conte’s relationship with certain figures at Chelsea became more strained and Fabio Paratici’s position at Tottenham could be key.

Paratici and Conte have already worked together at Juventus and their relationship was a vital factor in Tottenham’s latest approach. As the managing director of football, it is Paratici’s responsibility to deal with the club’s head coach on a day-to-day basis.
Conte’s door will no doubt be open to Levy, but it is Paratici who is likely to have daily access to the head coach and attempt to meet his transfer-window demands.
There is a myth pushed by Conte’s critics that he is a chequebook manager who relies on big-money signings. He undoubtedly demands and asks for the best, but he also makes the very best of what he has.
At Chelsea, Marcos Alonso was signed under the radar and became one of the best specialist left wing-backs in the game, while Victor Moses, a player largely ignored at Chelsea, prospered in a new position at right wing-back. His handling of John Terry’s final year and David Luiz’s return to the club was also masterly. Tottenham players will be given chances and it is up to them to take them, rather than moan about favouritism or a squad hierarchy.
Whereas supporters were never convinced by the appointment of Nuno, and Mourinho split opinion, there is a sense that Conte represents a genuine coup for Tottenham at a time when it appeared hard to see who might want to take on the task.
More here: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...e-spurs-courting-one-best-business-will-work/