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  1. John_Knee

    GFC to take part in tokenism

    The struggle is where you make a statement and then back it up with not supporting evidence. The fact statistically only 3.4% of the successful candidates doesn't prove there is a "systematic denial" - it raised a question worthy of further investigation certainly. You are confusing causation...
  2. John_Knee

    Gills team to absolutely annihilate Slackburn is in!

    Could be a 5-3-1-1 with either Parker or Martin as wingback and Clare behind Wilkinson. edit: Or Clare more in midfield with Martin or Parker behind Wilkinson depending on if one of them is wingback.... Otherwise a kind of 4-3-3 woth Martin and Parker wide of Wilkinson...
  3. John_Knee

    GFC to take part in tokenism

    In a prior comment you wrote: "There is every evidence that there are plenty of black candidates wishing to coach and manage; they keep telling us so. They keep telling us that they rarely even get shortlisted for interview too" So do you accept their word as evidence or not since most of the...
  4. John_Knee

    GFC to take part in tokenism

    Just because I don't agree with your opinion, it doesn't mean I don't "get it"... I could imply you also "don't get it" for having a differing view.
  5. John_Knee

    Son Of A Bitch - there, said it.........

    "Why are Americans, seemingly, so deeply offended and horrified by the phrase "Son of a bitch" ?" I would advise asking this on an American Football forum.... You'd probably find most Americans aren't so offended and it is some media rule that certain language is unacceptable before the...
  6. John_Knee

    GFC to take part in tokenism

    According to US figures, in 2016 Black Americans accorded for 13.3% of the population.... Just to confirm that black americans making up around 68%** of American Footballers when black people make up circa 13% of the national population is perfectly acceptable and there is no anti-white bias...
  7. John_Knee

    Seedorf close to Oldham job

    He hasn't actually been given the job (yet?) so slightly jumping the gun with the question.... Steven Pressley is one of them (or rather interviewed - not in a position to judge if better qualified).... Should be noted that Oldham have said they will interview other people next week so we will...
  8. John_Knee

    GFC to take part in tokenism

    While you aren't wrong in terms of the theory you have brought up, I do think you are massively, massively overstating the aspect of race. There are hundreds of little biases that people may have but race is not a dominant one that trumps all the rest except for a few openly racist people, In...
  9. John_Knee

    GFC to take part in tokenism

    You'd work out the qualified from their CV and if they have the basic qualifications. So for a football manager then that would be what level of coaching qualifications they have studied and if they have worked previously as a manager (full or youth sides) or coached within a similar...
  10. John_Knee

    GFC to take part in tokenism

    Do you really believe that certain sections of society have never suffered any form discrimination?
  11. John_Knee

    GFC to take part in tokenism

    I've snipped a lot out but left enough to highlight the paragraph I am referring to... 1) If you accept that in a results business like football then the chairman will look to hire the best skilled person. If any given black person is considered talented then they will be given the chance. The...
  12. John_Knee

    Off the wall managers?

    To Scallywags, "off the wall" means someone who wasn't involved with the club in the 90s...
  13. John_Knee

    GFC to take part in tokenism

    I don't think any white men are scared of competition providing it is done fairly on the basis of skills without identity factors like race or gender being one of the qualifying factors. In terms of the second paragraph, it is only useful if you know how many white people who applied in...
  14. John_Knee

    Posters League table??

    You should look on the Lincoln site - some people are short of 800 posts... The number in the table doesn't equate purely to number of posts. You get points for responding to articles or voting in polls etc. There is supposed to be site wide prizes for the best contributers but they haven't...
  15. John_Knee

    GFC to take part in tokenism

    The article said a third of players are BAME - does this mean 30 managers need to be black** in order for the leagues to be diversity representative?? If so, considering the smaller % of black players who have ties here, how would you force foreign black people to stay here to take the roles...
  16. John_Knee

    GFC to take part in tokenism

    Erm... I'm pretty certain Wayne Rooney had nothing to do with it (nor did Luke Rooney before you comment)... The Wayne Rooney rule is where you look good in the easier (pre-tournament) matches but then flatter to deceive when the serious part starts. The Wayne Rooney rule is something...
  17. John_Knee

    GFC to take part in tokenism

    The Rooney Rule relates to coaching staff and manager roles and not players... :83: Basically, every time we have a manager vacancy, we'll interview John Barnes or Carlton Palmer just to claim we interviewed a black person. Of course, this doesn't mean every black person interviewed is the...
  18. John_Knee

    GFC to take part in tokenism

    "A third of all players who started on the opening day of the Premier League season were from BAME backgrounds, but there are just three BAME managers" And the overwhelming majority of those BAME players are foreign nationals who will hang around for a few years picking up a sizable salary...
  19. John_Knee

    It's really time for Scally to hang up his boots

    Bloody hell Wayne - I realise you want to be top of the posting charts for this month, but posting the same thing four times is not remotely subtle... :83:
  20. John_Knee

    It's really time for Scally to hang up his boots

    I've not made an argument concerning if Scally is thin skinned or not as I don't really disagree with you - you seem to be arguing about something we broadly agree on... Where i disagree is whether or not Scally goes out of his way to avoid criticism in his decision making. You think he does...
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