BlackGold
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He sounds like a goon.
He sounds like a goon.
But a goon that is correct. What’s known as a right goon.He sounds like a goon.
Its funny, but others insult folk here - in spite of being correct in their assertions - and they have people running to the mods and smashing the report button.But a goon that is correct. What’s known as a right goon.
Not just the Reyna one, but the multitude of penalties we've had turned down. We've had more apologies than penalties this season. Even against Newcastle in the reverse fixture, Taiwo was brought down far worse than that Isak penalty and it was just waved away. The decisions have been absolutely, totally and utterly shambolic.Isak earlier in the season. Could not be softer. Fray says it Murillo its actually Aina who "trips" him. (About a min in)
I hate the fact that is a pen, ridiculous, but then if that is the benchmark then Reynas is too.
Also look at Isak when he gets up - pretending like he has just taken a two footer from Kenny Burns.
Gallagher says not enough contact - well what about this one then? If the rules have changed as he suggests to allow more contact then that needs to be communicated and how is it fair changing part way through a season?
He also, as pointed out, is of no real use as does not want to critisise his colleagues.
It is a mess.
Richard Key's blog
What else is there to say? You all saw it.
I know. I’m late. I’m sorry, but my problem was knowing where to start after what happened at Wembley this weekend - and I’m not just talkingrichardajkeys.com
I’ve nothing but sympathy for Forest fans today. I know we haven’t always seen eye to eye, but I’m with you now. What a disgrace that was at Goodison. And not for one minute do I agree with Mssrs Jordan, Souness or Neville (Oh what selective memories some people have) that the club had no right to issue the statement that followed the game. Yes they did.
No team has suffered more from poor decisions this season than Forest. Wolves come close, followed by West Ham. Hold on…..I’d better stop there before I name them all. Fulham. Burnley. See what I mean?
No. After what I saw at Goodison, when I caught up on the weekend’s games, Forest are out on their own.
Let’s be generous - one of the decisions was debatable. But, in truth, all three were pens. And I’ve nothing against Everton, whose fans are both knowledgable and honest. They know, like United, they got away with one.
The reason I don’t have a problem with Forest’s statement is because I happen to know that they warned Howard Webb (showbiz showbiz showbiz) on Friday that appointing Stuart Attwell to VAR was asking for trouble. Attwell is a Luton fan.
That’s not news - we all know that now. Forest knew it on Friday and asked for Attwell to be removed - quietly and without going public. Good call. Why not?
Nobody at Forest was suggesting that Attwell would adversely affect the game. I don’t believe any ref ever sets out to make bad decisions, but there’s always the risk of a game turning out the way it did - with controversial decisions being made - and a stench to follow.
I’ve argued this so many times when Anthony Taylor gets games between Man City/United and Liverpool. Of course he won’t make bad decisions intentionally, but why run the risk of him making a genuine mistake that backfires on him? Why? It’s stupid. It’s also arrogant and stubborn for the PGMOL to continue this practice. It’s bitten them badly with Attwell. I feel for the guy. I really do. It’s not his fault, although you could argue that he should’ve recused himself.
Webb was fully aware of the dangers. He should’ve stood Attwell down. Referees wanted to play a bigger role on match days. They wanted to be professionals. They wanted to be taken seriously. Well with those things comes accountability and scrutiny. I’m sorry, but that’s how it is now. We all live in that world.
If the small number of us that keep asking questions and pointing out failings don’t keep up that work nothing will change. I’m with Forest on this one.
It think you are going to find out that that is exactly what Clattenburg is putting together with commentaryI think the club should release a video reel on social media, of all the shit decisions we have had to take up the ass!
Boly sending off
Liverpool game
Ivan toney moving the ball
Everton game.
Thats just off the top of my head, sure there are others.
Fully support what the club are doing,
Its not pretty, but we have tried working with the powers that be and doesn't seem to make any difference!
Bit late to this debate as had to take wife shopping as her car is out of commission but wanted to put my twopenneth in.It should just be drawn to the attackers leading foot. If a player's upper body is "offside" because they've anticipated/reacted to a through ball quicker and started to lean into the run, that's superb timing in my opinion. Provided the feet are onside then it's all good for me.
just get rid of the offside ruleBit late to this debate as had to take wife shopping as her car is out of commission but wanted to put my twopenneth in.
The thing with the offside law is that it was designed to be judged by the naked eye, if someone looks level, they are level & are therefore on side. The law as it stands wasn't designed to be dissected forensically by todays technology. Personally I have no time for this line drawing which for me is just looking for a reason to disallow a goal which surely isn't the intention.
Someone much cleverer than me needs to reframe the law so that it can be judged by todays & future technologies yet still give the benefit of the doubt to the attacking player, a bit like umpires call in cricket. I've really no idea how this can be done but my feeling is that the law should revolve around the feet positions of players involved, the game is football so use the position of the feet
Couldnt agree moreBit late to this debate as had to take wife shopping as her car is out of commission but wanted to put my twopenneth in.
The thing with the offside law is that it was designed to be judged by the naked eye, if someone looks level, they are level & are therefore on side. The law as it stands wasn't designed to be dissected forensically by todays technology. Personally I have no time for this line drawing which for me is just looking for a reason to disallow a goal which surely isn't the intention.
Someone much cleverer than me needs to reframe the law so that it can be judged by todays & future technologies yet still give the benefit of the doubt to the attacking player, a bit like umpires call in cricket. I've really no idea how this can be done but my feeling is that the law should revolve around the feet positions of players involved, the game is football so use the position of the feet
Bit late to this debate as had to take wife shopping as her car is out of commission but wanted to put my twopenneth in.
The thing with the offside law is that it was designed to be judged by the naked eye, if someone looks level, they are level & are therefore on side. The law as it stands wasn't designed to be dissected forensically by todays technology. Personally I have no time for this line drawing which for me is just looking for a reason to disallow a goal which surely isn't the intention.
Someone much cleverer than me needs to reframe the law so that it can be judged by todays & future technologies yet still give the benefit of the doubt to the attacking player, a bit like umpires call in cricket. I've really no idea how this can be done but my feeling is that the law should revolve around the feet positions of players involved, the game is football so use the position of the feet
I hope so, any right minded indivudual outside being a forest fan would then see, we are constantly get f***ed over. Level of incompetence is astounding. Premier league would not be able to do anything as it is undeniable evidence the refs are shit. Apology letters dont cut it!It think you are going to find out that that is exactly what Clattenburg is putting together with commentary
To not just VAR it’s the interpretation of the rules. No consistency. Handball is all over the shop. No agreement. When is a foul just a small foul. When is a good tackle pulled up because of intent. It varies not just from ref to ref but same ref in same game. It’s a mockery. It’s not just the Forest games but it is all over the place. Just getting on with it suggests it is OK. PGMOL, the PL need to define what is and isn’t minor contact, intent, handball and be consistent. It’s not the rule it is how they choose to interpret. They are bringing the game into disrepute and ruining the game. Webb needs to get all the refs together and agree definitions and then communicate to clubs and officiate to a standard. Discussions between VAR and ref need to be open and broadcast So we understand why they come to the decision. Refs need to stop taking hallucinogenics.Umpire's Call in cricket goes either way, but appreciate what you're saying about there has to be a better system.
Personally, I just think it (VAR) should be binned, in current format.
Watched Boro v Leeds last night & Gnonto's goal (Leeds' 3rd) was offside & players just got on with it!