Strett
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Also the new shirt sponsor and supplier (Adidas) must generate more money than the charity one and Macron from the 22/23 season.Was the Mangala money factored in to your calculation?
Also the new shirt sponsor and supplier (Adidas) must generate more money than the charity one and Macron from the 22/23 season.Was the Mangala money factored in to your calculation?
No new evidence is allowed in the appeal. The appeal is the judgement.I think you can only appeal if you can provide new evidence.
I don't think there is anything new to provide.
Unless we can suddenly produce some documented evidence of our open discussions with them.
It seems that we were nieve, at best, in our dealings with the EPL - we honestly were not expecting them to come at us like this.
Unfortunately we have to accept and move on.
I have 2 concerns -
1. I am worried that by not appealing we leave the door open for Everton to appeal and leapfrog over us.
2. Our submission that COVID & promotion bonus's were exempt - were not accepted - that is £30m we have to carry forward into this years 3 year rolling submission that we were not expecting.
It is still in our hands - we need to take our frustrations out on the pitch and get the points required to not worry about what Everton do or don't do.
No, we can appeal, but we cannot put forward any new evidenceI think you can only appeal if you can provide new evidence.
I don't think there is anything new to provide.
Unless we can suddenly produce some documented evidence of our open discussions with them.
It seems that we were nieve, at best, in our dealings with the EPL - we honestly were not expecting them to come at us like this.
Unfortunately we have to accept and move on.
I have 2 concerns -
1. I am worried that by not appealing we leave the door open for Everton to appeal and leapfrog over us.
2. Our submission that COVID & promotion bonus's were exempt - were not accepted - that is £30m we have to carry forward into this years 3 year rolling submission that we were not expecting.
It is still in our hands - we need to take our frustrations out on the pitch and get the points required to not worry about what Everton do or don't do.
Our projection probably still assumes we will finish12th. Or in the top four.Yes. The club are projecting a 12-17m loss. That presumably will factor in the Mangala money. All of it
If we get relegated I suspect we probably need to make 70-90m of clear sales to avoid falling foul in the EFL. That depends on how many players have relegation clauses. The rumour is none of the new ones do. Players like Aina are going to be very hard to move on.
Point being it won't be silly money if it is a distressed sale. It will be way under the odds relative to a late transfer window sale.That's ok
Sell and then re-invest in players on staggered payments
As long as we are in Premier League we will get good money for whoever we sell
If we go down we are fooked in comparison anyway
Maybe Murillo or MGW or Awoniyi have to go
But we can re-invest
We need to be planning to replace regardless
Murillo for silly money might work
MGW will want to go somewhere soon enough as well regardless
They knew this before submitting the appeal docs.Also the new shirt sponsor and supplier (Adidas) must generate more money than the charity one and Macron from the 22/23 season.
Point being it won't be silly money if it is a distressed sale. It will be way under the odds relative to a late transfer window sale.
These (Adidas) and the fictitious Chinese betting company that adorns our shirts, would have not been in the 22/23 accounts (I think)They knew this before submitting the appeal docs.
There might be a big sponsor that comes in before end-June with a substantial up front payment. Say, a big, fat, Greek shipping company? Or a Kuwaiti fridge magnet company?
You old cynicThese (Adidas) and the fictitious Chinese betting company that adorns our shirts, would have not been in the 22/23 accounts (I think)
Given we got four points this season I would guess it is likely to be four points next season too provided we are not being stupid.Doesn't have to be if we manage it well. That's why we need a few options to sell
60m plus add ons for Murillo to Man City or Liverpool would work as plan A for me
But be prepared to replace and sell MGW or Awoniyi if needed
Would it be 4pts only, given this would be our second penalty in two seasons?Given we got four points this season I would guess it is likely to be four points next season too provided we are not being stupid.
Given that, if we are still in the Prem next season I would take the hit and get maximum value to reinvest and strengthen.
I'd be amazed if we get takers for Awoniyi, even if we are relegated.Doesn't have to be if we manage it well. That's why we need a few options to sell
60m plus add ons for Murillo to Man City or Liverpool would work as plan A for me
But be prepared to replace and sell MGW or Awoniyi if needed
That is Da Marco for you. Not only was he messing around at a Stan Bowles testimonial, but he was also moving house the week of our hearing. All these top legal experts like pope said it was under control, but that is only because Da Marco believed his own rubbish submissions. In fact, since he has been advising throughout, it just demonstrates how these two idiot QPR fans have f...Ed over Forest.I'm not sure.
The 4 points alerady includes a reduction which is basically to avoid an appeal (they use a starting point of 3 points instead of 6, because on appeal Everton's starting point was reduced to 3 points).
Having skimmed the document and read about half of it properly, it looks like our confidence was false, and the Premier League was much more antagonistic about charging us than they needed to be, but I doubt anyone making decisions would care or take that into account.
I'm furious about how the club have gone about this tbh. We fucked up really badly, ignored several warnings that we were going to be in breach, and just assumed that our mitigations would be taken on board when in fact the Premier League disputed 4 out of our 6 mitigation points, and the commission agreed with them.
Wow, calling me out specifically there.That is Da Marco for you. Not only was he messing around at a Stan Bowles testimonial, but he was also moving house the week of our hearing. All these top legal experts like pope said it was under control, but that is only because Da Marco believed his own rubbish submissions. In fact, since he has been advising throughout, it just demonstrates how these two idiot QPR fans have f...Ed over Forest.
But there would be a club that would take him Pope. It's always amazed me how & why clubs buy players that have dreadful historical injury records, because invariably the injury situation only gets worse with age.His injury record is just too dire at the moment for him to get another club
whilst at the same time voting against more money for the football league. hypocrisy at its worstSpot on
We've been a bunch of whiners all season
Hopefully there's no karma as if there is we would go down and Luton stay up
The statement from the club - saying what we've done is the only way for promoted clubs to survive in Premier League?
So how come we are struggling to be better than Luton?
It kind of falls down