Tbf you’ve gone off at a complete tangent there ‘57. My post related to one poster’s constant criticism with regards to playing out from the back which we’ve done in the last two games where we haven’t played so well (although I didn’t think yesterday was as bad as you feel it was and I didn’t see it as a ‘parking the bus’ performance at all) and in every other game since Unai arrived. Pretty sure we’ll continue to do that whether we play well or not. That’s what his teams have always done and that’s what my post referred to. Nothing to do specifically with our last two games and I don’t think too many are, as you suggest, ‘pretending’ that Unai wants us to play as we have done last week and this. Think most posters thought last week’s game was bloody awful, I certainly did, but we still played out from the back as we did when we played very well against United, Spurs, Brighton etc. To say playing out from the back ‘ is not going to work’ when he’s started so impressively with an inherited squad is nonsensical! Some games we’ll play well,sometimes we’ll be more pragmatic, sometimes we might be awful, sometimes playing out from the back might lead to mistakes but in all of them we’ll stick primarily to Unai’s preferred way of playing whether we like it or not. If it means digging out results now and then like we have done in the last two weeks, so be it. Tbf many of us have been crying out out for years to do that more regularly. Beats being a plucky loser!
West Ham United v Aston Villa Sunday 12th March 2pm K.O
- Thread starter sirdennis
- Start date
Tbf you’ve gone off at a complete tangent there ‘57. My post related to one poster’s constant criticism with regards to playing out from the back which we’ve done in the last two games where we haven’t played so well (although I didn’t think yesterday was as bad as you feel it was and I didn’t see it as a ‘parking the bus’ performance at all) and in every other game since Unai arrived. Pretty sure we’ll continue to do that whether we play well or not. That’s what his teams have always done and that’s what my post referred to. Nothing to do specifically with our last two games and I don’t think too many are, as you suggest, ‘pretending’ that Unai wants us to play as we have done last week and this. Think most posters thought last week’s game was bloody awful, I certainly did, but we still played out from the back as we did when we played very well against United, Spurs, Brighton etc. To say playing out from the back ‘ is not going to work’ when he’s started so impressively with an inherited squad is nonsensical! Some games we’ll play well,sometimes we’ll be more pragmatic, sometimes we might be awful, sometimes playing out from the back might lead to mistakes but in all of them we’ll stick primarily to Unai’s preferred way of playing whether we like it or not. If it means digging out results now and then like we have done in the last two weeks, so be it. Tbf many of us have been crying out out for years to do that more regularly. Beats being a plucky loser!
Tell you what he has done, he's got rid of Tyrone's lump it forward. Think he's had a word with him, and we keep possession better when coming out from the back. Noticed we aren't hanging on to the ball until we are in danger of losing it in bad places. We will make lash ups because some of our back four are not the best on the ball, and Emi drops them in it sometimes, but when we play it with a bit of pace it's getting us forward without losing possession.
CDX_EIRE
Vital Football Legend
The flip side to that is if this is how he parks the bus is that not better than watching us defend deep, wave after wave?
I don't want to make too many excuses but yesterday was a game where people are conflating West Hams position with their home form. They're solid at home so that was a good result for us. I get the issue with the Palace game but off the back of 3 straight defeats I kind of get it too.
This weekend is a bigger measure of where we are. Can we put away a poor side who are in trouble at home?
Villan57
Alert Team
You've totally missed what I was trying to say there mate but ....
Villan57
Alert Team
I'd have taken a point before the game but I feel in the end we were hanging on for a point in a game where as Unai puts it if we had been "braver" we'd have put it to bed.
Silhillvilla
Vital Football Legend
The last two games have been dire from an entertainment viewpoint, boring, awful games of football. But we've got 4 points. I'd rather that than scintilating total football and 0 or 1 point.
It's certainly better than the turgid, uncoordinated shite we witnessed under Slippy. There's a clear pattern of play that gets tweaked slightly depending on opposition and the more the players at his disposal, at the moment, get used to it the better we'll be.
Admittedly, at times, it may not be the most entertaining spectacle but it's not going to be an instantaneous ,roaring success. We have to be patient as the rewards will be high, I'm sure.
When you look at the turnaround since he's come in it's been remarkable as the points on the board prove.
3-4 astute signings in the summer will push us on even further.
Guaranteed, under Slippy,we'd of lost that Sunday
Admittedly, at times, it may not be the most entertaining spectacle but it's not going to be an instantaneous ,roaring success. We have to be patient as the rewards will be high, I'm sure.
When you look at the turnaround since he's come in it's been remarkable as the points on the board prove.
3-4 astute signings in the summer will push us on even further.
Guaranteed, under Slippy,we'd of lost that Sunday
Silhillvilla
Vital Football Legend
There's not much point comparing him to slippy to be honest, like comparing fillet steak with a dog turd. Probably better to compare to MON under the Lerner years and ask can UE take us that one step further under NSWE era .
tarzansbrother
Vital Football Hero
We have had glimpses along with promising results - add to the fact we are starting to get results at places we have come away with a drubbing. As you say it’s coming together even exciting.
Pangloss
Vital Football Legend
Yes I noticed him twice, when he was flagged offside. So gutted we lost him.
Pangloss
Vital Football Legend
I thought Rice got the ball
sirdennis
Alert Team
I was in the gods so couldn't tell. I've got to say the ref was dreadful yesterday. Easily the worst I've seen this week.
CDX_EIRE
Vital Football Legend
Unai could of won the league with the team MoN had but competition back then was more about the "Top 4" whereas now its the Sky 6 + the Saudi's. Getting 6th would better MoNs 6th place finishes and I am quietly optimistic he can make 4th a reality.
- How long will Kane last at Spurs?
- How much damage have Chelsea inflicted upon themselves?
- Will Liverpools ownership back Klopp like they need to?
- United are on a comeback trail but how far have they really come?
- I am far from convinced by Newcastle, they'll sign better players but I don't think this style of football will get them Top 4. Spurs might not even manage it and they have Kane bailing them out every other week.
Melon Donkey
I am a little bit perplexed
It really didn't have the feeling of hanging on when watching it there. We had a couple of late opportunities. And there were nerves from the spam fans.
I said to the bloke next to me
that it was next goal wins and that was at about 70 mins. The spam fans felt the same I could sense. They were getting the arse when they were tippy tappy in midfield on 80 mins. I think their team and Moyes were happy to settle for a point and if the win came then so be it. Which is a compliment to us tbh. I think there was an element of us settling as well for sure.
Villan57
Alert Team
I didn't think it was a pen but it was as much a Pen as there was that for sure
Villan57
Alert Team
It really didn't have the feeling of hanging on when watching it there. We had a couple of late opportunities. And there were nerves from the spam fans.
I said to the bloke next to me
I didn't think we looked like scoring scend half. Thankfully they had Ings up front
Initial reaction was that it was a pen but on replay it didn’t look like it was…a bit like theirs although you could argue the foul on Buendia at first glance,looked more of a pen than Bailey’s push. Just a pity the twit in green was so keen to give the first but not the second. If he’s given ours, you’d think VAR wouldn’t have overturned ours either….not clear/obvious etc but knowing our luck combined with how inconsistent they are…..they probably would have!
tarzansbrother
Vital Football Hero
They said if West Ham’s was a penalty then so was ours - referee should/could have given both and then VAR turn both down?
