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(I know this shouldn't be in this forum, but I'll move it later, it's here as I think some 'debates' go beyond club discussions)...
This time Jose and his deflection and distraction tactics have gone too far; his team were a disgrace, all the dark arts and some yet to be discovered were on show in this game. His team were largely cheating thugs, orchestrated by one of the game's greatest, unsporting cheaters ever.
But this time, his shenanigans actually put a man and his family at risk.
There are no excuses, he knew exactly what he was doing. Uefa have to take the severest action and ban him from football for at least 6 months or more. Roma Ultra's are nutters and they'll do anything to prove they are and nearly did.
Get rid of this pox of a man from our sport before he drags it even further into his gutter.
Outburst was classic José Mourinho – it is time he was punished
The authorities have to sanction Roma manager if they are serious about protecting officials
Peter Walton
, former Premier League referee
Thursday June 01 2023, 6.45pm, The Times
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When I was a referee, managers would often come into my dressing room after a match to berate me, to use what you might call industrial language, or just to debate the game, one on one.
After José Mourinho’s Roma side lost the Europa League final to Sevilla on Wednesday night, he could have done exactly that, airing any complaints he had about Anthony Taylor and his officiating team in private.
● Mourinho confronts referee after Europa League final loss
Instead, knowing there were plenty of cameras and media around, he chose to do it in the car park, shouting at Taylor and calling him a “f***ing disgrace”. He’s a very clever man and he knew it would be captured on film. Now, once again, we’re seeing newspaper headlines about Mourinho and the officials, rather than the fact that Roma lost the game. Taylor and his family were also confronted and attacked by enraged fans in Budapest airport, with one person launching a chair at the referee.
Mourinho is booked by Taylor but there was a case for saying the English referee should have sent the Roma manager to the stands
DAVID KLEIN/ALAMY
It’s classic Mourinho. He has been doing it since the day he said, “I’m the Special One” — deflecting any scrutiny on his team or his tactics. Every person is allowed a reaction or an emotional outburst, but this was choreographed.
Love him or hate him, he’s a character, and a character that the game needs or it would be bland, but he has tried to distract from his frustrations — not necessarily with the officials, but with his team and with the big decisions, which are part of the game — with an attack on the referee, which is out of order. Taylor also appeared to be met by angry Roma fans when he turned up at the airport with his family on Thursday. The PGMOL, the English game’s refereeing body, released a statement that said it “continues to provide full support to Anthony and his family”.
He sets a very poor example. Only this week the FA announced new measures, including point deductions, to combat bad behaviour and abuse in grassroots football, but Mourinho makes the job of a Sunday morning referee immensely difficult when, as a role model, he behaves like this.
I upset Mourinho once. I was a fourth official when Chelsea were playing Leicester City and there was a goal disallowed for offside. This was when iPads were allowed in the technical area and he brought the iPad over to me, shouting, “Look, look!” He was so upset that he threw it on the floor and it smashed to pieces. He was raging, but I just smiled at him — that was part of his make-up and the best thing to do was to let him know you weren’t rattled.
Overall, I think the English officiating crew did an exceptional job on Wednesday. The only issue I had was that they weren’t strong enough with the antics in the technical areas of both teams. We saw a gradual increase in poor behaviour from both sets of coaches, which at times spilt on to the field.
They’re sowing the seed for the next decision, trying to influence the next decision. I’m sure the officials would be aware of that and I would hope it wouldn’t make a difference at that level, but on a Sunday morning you see a similar thing and that referee is not going to be as experienced as Anthony Taylor, so that would influence them.
Never mind what happened in the car park afterwards, action needs to be taken during the game. Mourinho should have seen the last quarter of the match in row Z. That’s a greater punishment than missing out on the first two group games of next season’s campaign. Officials have the authority to send off badly-behaved coaches and they should be more comfortable removing the protagonist straight away.
There are two ways to support the officials in this situation. One is to make sure Taylor is out there refereeing in the first rounds of the competition next year to show their support — that responsibility falls to Roberto Rosetti, Uefa’s chief of referees, who was with him at the game on Wednesday. He probably wouldn’t take Roma in the first round, for obvious reasons, but there’s no need to protect him from them and if Roma have an issue with it, it’s their issue. The other thing is for the authorities to punish Mourinho.
We hear more about abuse of officials than we used to, partly because of recent issues with Jürgen Klopp and other high-profile managers, but I don’t think the instances of bad behaviour have increased — we are just more aware of it and dealing with it.
You could argue that people like me weren’t strong enough 10 to 15 years ago and now we are seeing the results, but the truth is that pressure grows on managers every season, the stakes grow every season, and we see that in the way they get sacked so frequently.
Either way, Wednesday night’s events may just inject a bit more urgency into the authorities to address it — let’s hope so.
This time Jose and his deflection and distraction tactics have gone too far; his team were a disgrace, all the dark arts and some yet to be discovered were on show in this game. His team were largely cheating thugs, orchestrated by one of the game's greatest, unsporting cheaters ever.
But this time, his shenanigans actually put a man and his family at risk.
There are no excuses, he knew exactly what he was doing. Uefa have to take the severest action and ban him from football for at least 6 months or more. Roma Ultra's are nutters and they'll do anything to prove they are and nearly did.
Get rid of this pox of a man from our sport before he drags it even further into his gutter.
Outburst was classic José Mourinho – it is time he was punished
The authorities have to sanction Roma manager if they are serious about protecting officials
Peter Walton
, former Premier League referee
Thursday June 01 2023, 6.45pm, The Times
Share
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...mourinho-it-is-time-he-was-punished-sbf9f69tv
When I was a referee, managers would often come into my dressing room after a match to berate me, to use what you might call industrial language, or just to debate the game, one on one.
After José Mourinho’s Roma side lost the Europa League final to Sevilla on Wednesday night, he could have done exactly that, airing any complaints he had about Anthony Taylor and his officiating team in private.
● Mourinho confronts referee after Europa League final loss
Instead, knowing there were plenty of cameras and media around, he chose to do it in the car park, shouting at Taylor and calling him a “f***ing disgrace”. He’s a very clever man and he knew it would be captured on film. Now, once again, we’re seeing newspaper headlines about Mourinho and the officials, rather than the fact that Roma lost the game. Taylor and his family were also confronted and attacked by enraged fans in Budapest airport, with one person launching a chair at the referee.
Mourinho is booked by Taylor but there was a case for saying the English referee should have sent the Roma manager to the stands
DAVID KLEIN/ALAMY
It’s classic Mourinho. He has been doing it since the day he said, “I’m the Special One” — deflecting any scrutiny on his team or his tactics. Every person is allowed a reaction or an emotional outburst, but this was choreographed.
Love him or hate him, he’s a character, and a character that the game needs or it would be bland, but he has tried to distract from his frustrations — not necessarily with the officials, but with his team and with the big decisions, which are part of the game — with an attack on the referee, which is out of order. Taylor also appeared to be met by angry Roma fans when he turned up at the airport with his family on Thursday. The PGMOL, the English game’s refereeing body, released a statement that said it “continues to provide full support to Anthony and his family”.
He sets a very poor example. Only this week the FA announced new measures, including point deductions, to combat bad behaviour and abuse in grassroots football, but Mourinho makes the job of a Sunday morning referee immensely difficult when, as a role model, he behaves like this.
I upset Mourinho once. I was a fourth official when Chelsea were playing Leicester City and there was a goal disallowed for offside. This was when iPads were allowed in the technical area and he brought the iPad over to me, shouting, “Look, look!” He was so upset that he threw it on the floor and it smashed to pieces. He was raging, but I just smiled at him — that was part of his make-up and the best thing to do was to let him know you weren’t rattled.
Overall, I think the English officiating crew did an exceptional job on Wednesday. The only issue I had was that they weren’t strong enough with the antics in the technical areas of both teams. We saw a gradual increase in poor behaviour from both sets of coaches, which at times spilt on to the field.
They’re sowing the seed for the next decision, trying to influence the next decision. I’m sure the officials would be aware of that and I would hope it wouldn’t make a difference at that level, but on a Sunday morning you see a similar thing and that referee is not going to be as experienced as Anthony Taylor, so that would influence them.
Never mind what happened in the car park afterwards, action needs to be taken during the game. Mourinho should have seen the last quarter of the match in row Z. That’s a greater punishment than missing out on the first two group games of next season’s campaign. Officials have the authority to send off badly-behaved coaches and they should be more comfortable removing the protagonist straight away.
There are two ways to support the officials in this situation. One is to make sure Taylor is out there refereeing in the first rounds of the competition next year to show their support — that responsibility falls to Roberto Rosetti, Uefa’s chief of referees, who was with him at the game on Wednesday. He probably wouldn’t take Roma in the first round, for obvious reasons, but there’s no need to protect him from them and if Roma have an issue with it, it’s their issue. The other thing is for the authorities to punish Mourinho.
We hear more about abuse of officials than we used to, partly because of recent issues with Jürgen Klopp and other high-profile managers, but I don’t think the instances of bad behaviour have increased — we are just more aware of it and dealing with it.
You could argue that people like me weren’t strong enough 10 to 15 years ago and now we are seeing the results, but the truth is that pressure grows on managers every season, the stakes grow every season, and we see that in the way they get sacked so frequently.
Either way, Wednesday night’s events may just inject a bit more urgency into the authorities to address it — let’s hope so.