I don't know anybody who is poorer or more fed up.
Here we go!
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radfordinlondon
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Taking back control
BBC News - Say one thing, do another? The government’s record rise in net migration
Say one thing, do another? The government’s record rise in net migration
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yup vote brexit, get migrants. is there anywhere that brexit has been a success?
radfordinlondon
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Basha73
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I am certainly worse off in terms of outgoings and, as a civil servant, my pay rise - the only one I have had in the last decade - was far below the rate of inflation.
radfordinlondon
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is there a late rush of people who can all declare they are better off?
toms, are you not better off?
toms, are you not better off?
Over the last 14 years , yes I am. Sorry about that. Ups and Downs sure like everyone else. I cant believe anyone who would change to your lot to be honest. They offer nothing of consequence at all but apparently Daily Express readers think their lives will be materially better under Reevarmer. Without Reform though not looking good for us
Personally? Me and the wife because we have no debt, the kids are off our hands and doing well, and all my mates at the golf club, all happy with smiled on their faces.
radfordinlondon
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that's interesting. would you mind if I asked which group you consider yourself to belong- retired, employed, business owner?
I see you acknowledge 'downs' but overall you feel 'up'. is that just a feeling or is there any basis in fact?
radfordinlondon
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can we assume you are retired and therefore don't feel poorer because of the triple lock on pensions?
I am retired yes, but obviously my kids aren't. I don't rely on a state pension either.
stenroach
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Compared to where I was in 2010, my income is up. Costs have gone up recently due to inflationary pressures which means things have got a tighter but we manage. Managed to save a bit along the years which has softened the blow. Made a couple of decent investments which assisted.
Overall, given what we've been through over the last 8 years feel more up than down now. Possibly if the war in Ukraine ends, there might be some clear blue water ahead
Happy with Brexit. Big Government and socialism is not my thing
radfordinlondon
Vital Football Legend
having an occupational or private pension would certainly help off-set food and energy inflation.
however, for the past 14 years your savings have been worth spit and your tax is still the highest since ww2.
radfordinlondon
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that sounds honest enough although sounds more like treading water. plenty of folks still not quite back to where they were in 2010.
that last sentence tho chap- you don't like big govt or socialism but happy with brexit even tho all it has delivered so far is big govt and socialist level taxation.
care to elucidate?
Big government and taxation has flowed from Covid in the main and wars and pandemics have driven higher taxation. generally speaking Conservatives aspire to lower taxes
in_the_top_one
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Brexit is responsible for 100,000 extra civil servants and vastly more bureaucracy for businesses than before. That needs to be paid for by tax and consumers.
Well actually my savings in the main I have used to buy into investment trusts which have returned considerably more than spit, all in an isa so no tax whatsoever. Don't like to appear clever but you did make some statements that needed answering. I would guess that millions more people who have had to look out for themselves through the years are in a similar position and would never vote for a party that tends to give their hard earned to " the oat for noters". I wouldn't anyway.
Just as well we are not paying 14 billion to the EU then....
