England cricket team - pathetic (n/g).
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HerrLjunga
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27/9 at one stage. Absolutely dismal.
Razorpound
Vital Squad Member
Yes, 31 for the last wicket aint that sad!
MedwayModernist
Vital Squad Member
Utterly woeful.
The way test cricket of the last few years is being dominated by home sides is the biggest threat on the game IMO. England will now lose this test, and probably lose or draw the second, losing the series.
It's Pakistan (2 tests) and India (5 tests) this summer at home, and I'd be surprised if we don't win both series with the ball swinging around on green seamers
The way test cricket of the last few years is being dominated by home sides is the biggest threat on the game IMO. England will now lose this test, and probably lose or draw the second, losing the series.
It's Pakistan (2 tests) and India (5 tests) this summer at home, and I'd be surprised if we don't win both series with the ball swinging around on green seamers
GillsBluenose
Vital Football Hero
This.
Our Test home record continues to be as impressive as our away form is pathetic (apart from the win in South Africa a couple of years back).
Groundsmen prepare tracks to suit the home nation and they also choose the ball that most suits their own bowlers (during the Ashes, it is the Duke ball in this country and Kookaburra in Australia I think) so it is a double advantage.
The disparity with the sub continent is even larger. Kohli rules on Indian tracks but struggles to make a run over here. The Indian spinners are nigh on unplayable at times in their own country but largely negated when they play here.
However, I did hear that the venues we have chosen for the next home Ashes series are not those where we have the best records. Typical of us to not even get that right !
Problem is that our climate and atmosphere suit seam, swing and reverse swing but not pace or spin so we will always struggle to produce high quality pace bowlers and off spinners.
GillsBluenose
Vital Football Hero
This.
Our Test home record continues to be as impressive as our away form is pathetic (apart from the win in South Africa a couple of years back).
Groundsmen prepare tracks to suit the home nation and they also choose the ball that most suits their own bowlers (during the Ashes, it is the Duke ball in this country and Kookaburra in Australia I think) so it is a double advantage.
The disparity with the sub continent is even larger. Kohli rules on Indian tracks but struggles to make a run over here. The Indian spinners are nigh on unplayable at times in their own country but largely negated when they play here.
However, I did hear that the venues we have chosen for the next home Ashes series are not those where we have the best records. Typical of us to not even get that right !
Problem is that our climate and atmosphere suit seam, swing and reverse swing but not pace or spin so we will always struggle to produce high quality pace bowlers and off spinners.
Razorpound
Vital Squad Member
We might be saved by "Rain stops play"
NathanH_GFC
Vital 1st Team Regular
I?d say we won day 2.
ME8_Gills
Vital Reserves Team
Even though England were pathetic at least they haven't taken to cheating like the Aussies. Disgusting behaviour by Bancroft and the captain Smith, hopefully both will get some sort of ban. If anyone hasn't seen the TV footage, Bancroft uses a sticky tape to scuff the ball then hides it in his pants when he's been rumbled, all with the blessing of the captain.
GillsBluenose
Vital Football Hero
The Aussies have always had stuff like that in them. Warner in particular is a very nasty piece of work who has been banned and reprimanded numerous times and yet they still made him vice captain !
They seem to think that they can spout all sorts of filth at opposition players and just call it sledging but as soon as De Kock gave him some back, Warner bleats that what he said crossed the line.
Problem is, they think they have the right to decide where "the line" is.
Stones and glass houses come to mind.
Nobby_66
Vital Football Hero
Fair enough Bob but IMO he was one of THE most accurate spin bowlers ever. Wouldn't end up with a test bowling average of less than 26 bowling spin if he wasn't
He was a particular hero of mine as I was a spin bowler for my school team so I guess I'm biased though.
I was lucky enough to meet him a few times, one of which was a Sunday league match at Moat Park. I was getting his autograph when Charlie Rowe walked past and said hi (he coached cricket at my school and recognised me) once Deadly realised we knew each other, he invited me into the Kent dressing room where he passed my autograph book round the whole team. Knott, Iqbal and Tavare included
That memory will stay with me for ever. What a gent.
OneSirKeefy
Vital Football Hero
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OneSirKeefy
Vital Football Hero
All very true. But remember Atherton & Trescothick? We haven't been covered in glory either.
I doubt Smith and Warner will see the Aussie captaincy again. Personally I think they shouldn't see the baggy green again. Caught red-handed. Lehmann too.
As for the sledging, Warner is the nastiest piece of work in a whole team of nasty pieces of work. It is in the culture in sporting teams over here. But they squeal and whine like nothing when it comes back in spades.
Nobby_66
Vital Football Hero
Loved county cricket back then, I'm not sure when central contracts took their current form but the top international players always seemed to be available for their county in those days. Probably a case of rose coloured specs but it wasn't unusual to see the names above playing at Maidstone and Canterbury.
Perhaps I should confess now that at Maidstone, we used to get in through a hole in the fence so never paid. :86:
Perhaps I should confess now that at Maidstone, we used to get in through a hole in the fence so never paid. :86:
Detritus
Vital Squad Member
Remember watching a Kent v Somerset one dayer at Maidstone. Kent won because Somerset needed a six off the last ball but it fell just short IIRC.
I went to MGS and we used to finish school and nip across the road to watch the last couple of hours cricket for free then hang about to get autographs. Colin Cowdrey used to make us carry his bag to his car - used to take two of us to struggle with it.
