Charlton down ?
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At the top levels probably (hopefully) none. No doubt a lot of clubs are struggling. But like the EPL, most of the revenue comes from TV not gate/crowd money. Although we are actually allowed crowds back here in Oz (not Victoria though).
There is also not the extravagant player wages over here. Salary caps in all codes are pretty strict and mainly adhered to.
Melbourne Storm (rugby) got done a few years back for abuse of the salary cap system. They got all their premierships over that period expunged from the records, massive fines and forced to move on a lot of their top earners to get under the cap. Some of their administrators, CEO etc got barred. Then played a season basically for no points. They were relegated to last place despite their wins/losses that next season I believe.
The football has recently started again here. Finishing off the last few games, then the play-off finals series. All on TV, minimal (or no) crowds.
AFL season is continuing with all clubs in “hubs” and all paid for by the AFL main body. All the clubs will survive. Well, hopefully.....
There is also not the extravagant player wages over here. Salary caps in all codes are pretty strict and mainly adhered to.
Melbourne Storm (rugby) got done a few years back for abuse of the salary cap system. They got all their premierships over that period expunged from the records, massive fines and forced to move on a lot of their top earners to get under the cap. Some of their administrators, CEO etc got barred. Then played a season basically for no points. They were relegated to last place despite their wins/losses that next season I believe.
The football has recently started again here. Finishing off the last few games, then the play-off finals series. All on TV, minimal (or no) crowds.
AFL season is continuing with all clubs in “hubs” and all paid for by the AFL main body. All the clubs will survive. Well, hopefully.....
I think if depends on whether we get fans back and keep them in stadiums if its a stop start process with fans in and then out due to spikes then its hard to plan financially and some will go under.
If we get them in and stay in then hopefully regular cash flow in will help crediors be sympathetic.
My hunch is this will be sporadic if we get back and that will be the final straw for many.
The fact is there is the money in the game.The Premier league are still swimming in cash.It is frankly obscene that they will watch hundreds and perhaps thousands of clubs die and still spend 50 million on a player etc.I am done with the Premier league their lack of action in the current circumstances stinks.
I agree Chris. The moment that the FA gave up control, it was never going to be good for smaller clubs.
The Premier League has only one loyalty and that is to itself.
They pay lip service but really couldn’t give a flying fig about lower league football.
Top earners could sponsor a lower league club for about what they spend on a motor.
I note Harry Kane is sponsoring Orient this coming season.
Good on him.
The Premier League has only one loyalty and that is to itself.
They pay lip service but really couldn’t give a flying fig about lower league football.
Top earners could sponsor a lower league club for about what they spend on a motor.
I note Harry Kane is sponsoring Orient this coming season.
Good on him.
They agreed to sell their ground in 2017/18 and put the sale in their 2017/18 financial accounts (from the perspective of FFP), but the actual sale actually went through in the 2018/19 season. Hence, the benefit from the sale should have been in the 18/19 season and not the 17/18 season.
The 2019/20 season would not have been impacted for FFP reasons as the sale of the ground was a one off "bonus" which was spent in a (wrong) prior season.
The 2019/20 season would not have been impacted for FFP reasons as the sale of the ground was a one off "bonus" which was spent in a (wrong) prior season.
Totally agree the example set by Harry Kane has been lost on the rest of Premier league football.The government of any colour can't really help while football remains awash with money.There are far too many other things that they will need to spend out on.So clubs will disappear rapidly in the coming weeks and months.
Jesus, this is complicated. Can I try working it out? So instead of a playing budget let’s use apples:
16/17: budget of 9 apples over this and previous two seasons, reaches this budget.
17/18: budget increased to 12 apples (stadium sale in accounts), but they only use 9 apples (haven’t physically received the money).
18/19: budget of 12 apples (No increase, last season a one-off), reaches this budget.
19/20: budget of 12 apples allowed, Sheff Weds themselves reduce budget to 10-11 apples
20/21: budget of 9 apples
If the stadium sale was deemed illegal then wouldn’t it mean they should have a budget of 9 apples these last load of years? Therefore they’ve still broken it last season unless they sensible reduced their playing budget to pre-stadium sale?
16/17: budget of 9 apples over this and previous two seasons, reaches this budget.
17/18: budget increased to 12 apples (stadium sale in accounts), but they only use 9 apples (haven’t physically received the money).
18/19: budget of 12 apples (No increase, last season a one-off), reaches this budget.
19/20: budget of 12 apples allowed, Sheff Weds themselves reduce budget to 10-11 apples
20/21: budget of 9 apples
If the stadium sale was deemed illegal then wouldn’t it mean they should have a budget of 9 apples these last load of years? Therefore they’ve still broken it last season unless they sensible reduced their playing budget to pre-stadium sale?
I didn't like it Chris.
I tried both Barnstaple & Bideford and found the standard like park football and not very interesting as a neutral.
Live football with no skin in the game is just not the same.
The only good thing was the pies and having a pint while watching.
Having said that , the Bideford Ultras were interesting.
They are as passionate as any big club fan, probably more so, and the Bideford / Barnstaple derby ... that's off the scale
I tried both Barnstaple & Bideford and found the standard like park football and not very interesting as a neutral.
Live football with no skin in the game is just not the same.
The only good thing was the pies and having a pint while watching.
Having said that , the Bideford Ultras were interesting.
They are as passionate as any big club fan, probably more so, and the Bideford / Barnstaple derby ... that's off the scale
They were likely to fall foul of the FFP rules from overspending in the years leading up to 17/18 so they sold the ground in order to make a profit and pass the FFP criteria.
So for the prior few season prior to the sale they overspent by 3 Apples per season. During the 17/18 season they agree to sell the ground for 10 Apples. This means over the prior 3 seasons, they actually made a apple profit instead of a 9 apple loss. Or this is what they claimed at the time.
In reality they had overspent in the 3 seasons up to 17/18.
The sale and profit of the ground would mean they could spend extra in the 19/20 season but this would be true regardless of if the sale happened in 17/18 or 18/19.
So for the prior few season prior to the sale they overspent by 3 Apples per season. During the 17/18 season they agree to sell the ground for 10 Apples. This means over the prior 3 seasons, they actually made a apple profit instead of a 9 apple loss. Or this is what they claimed at the time.
In reality they had overspent in the 3 seasons up to 17/18.
The sale and profit of the ground would mean they could spend extra in the 19/20 season but this would be true regardless of if the sale happened in 17/18 or 18/19.
