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Bob Crow

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reports saying he has died. Not every one's cup of tea but rip. I was only listening to a radio 4 piece yesterday where a journo had taken him out for a meal and an interview. Came across as a likeable fella in that.
 
I hope this isn't true.

He was certainly my cup of tea. Did a damn good job on behalf of his members, which is the job of a good union leader. I'll argue the toss for this fella, and all others of his ilk, with anyone. I hope the RMT have a good man in place to carry on his legacy.
 
Looks to be the case OL. Google interview Radio 4 with Becky Milligan from yesterday's pm news program (5pm).
 
A man of principle who did the job he was paid for by his members. A dying breed and we are the poorer for his passing.
 
steekiebrown - 11/3/2014 10:43

An old rogue. Seen more brown envelopes than arry redknapp
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Totally agree with you Steeks, Milwall thug too to boot. Caused needless Tube strikes too many times.
 
Absolutely Crooktownmags. I mourn his death. There will be many politicians of all parties who will speak of his strength of character and his sense of purpose.
 
I think the original role of Unions, to protect the worker, expanded somewhat out of control, and ended up trying to manipulate and bully the employer - who doesn't have to give someone a job in the first place!

Maybe bit simplistic for many, but when I don't like a job - I leave, and find something else, not moan about it, or try to get better conditions.

In the past, for sure, Unions helped get better conditions, but latterly, I think they were counter-productive - many of this chaps ilk were to blame.



 
If we went by that logic we'd all be stuck in fucking slave houses still as companies wouldn't have to comply with laws. Kim, you really are a first class berk these days.

I don't know what has happened with you over the past few months but I suggest you seek help.
 
He's an attention seeker, but runs away when he gets a response.

Total coward, not only morally, but likely to be physically so as well.

Probably bottled it on duty, that's my call on his cuntishness.
 
This is a total shock, 52 yrs of age is too young man. As for Bob crow as a man well you just have to ask his members he was odolised, people will say he was too militant on one hand and on the other he was just a champagne socialist but like i say ask his members for example train drivers now get £40-50k a year in london and that really gets on people nerves but these train driver delivered bankers and businesmen all over the capital safely and on time so they could pick up their 7 figure salaries which no one seems to be bothered about, or the cleaners who keep the network clean by picking up everyones shit aye they might get £10 an hour so fucking what and its all down to Bob crow because he knew every capital city needs a rail and transport system to run smoothly and he used this to excess in negotiations.

RIP Bob crow & RIP the RMT as i cant see them finding someone as tough as him.
 
There seems to be a feeling that the tube drivers have it piss easy. They do to a certain extent, but what's wrong with that.?I call it progress when we have enough money and leisure time to spend it. Should be this way for everyone, and if we had more like Bob Crow it would be. If people paid decent wages there would be less need of a welfare system to top it all up. Crow ensured the burden was placed exactly where it should be placed; with the employer. Good on him.
 
You cannot argue with the deals he got his memebers. I would not want monkeys driving the underground.

Please do listen to his radio interview, repeated again tonight and probably available on i-player, near the end of the program tonight.

Loves vinegar, vinegar on everyfink. Pantomine. Lives in council house - only one with a job, rest on benefits - who's the mug?

Un-apologetic. We need more like him on both sides of the great divide who call it as they see it. It makes politics interesting and something worth sitting up and listening to and taking note of.
 
Made mine and many others lives very difficult.

And not just bankers etc but the workers in all forms trying to get to and from work and they did it at the drop of a hat - fuck knows how many strikes there have been over the last few years, but I remember a point when they were at every week for what seemed like an eternity.

I'm all for people fighting for their rights but these fuckers took it to the extreme when they were already on one of the most generous packages around (for the skill level involved).

They'll regret it in 5 years when they're out on their arses because of driverless trains.



 
I think i will side with the train drivers over the bankers GR, i tend to associate generous packages with the bankers and not ticket collectors or station cleaners.
 
The fact that it affected people is one good indicator of what an important job they do. They weren't striking for more money, they were trying to hang on to what they had. I don't see the problem in workers being paid a decent wage. Why shouldn't the workers share in the profits? They do all the work for a start. If we had a few more like Bob Crow then all workers would be better off. However, some would rather they were paid shite wages, and being propped up by benefits. I think the burden should lie with the employer, and not the tax payer. All employers should be forced to pay a living wage, rather than expecting the country to pick up the wage bill. The lower the wage, the more come out of your pocket to prop up shit employers. It's worth remembering that it wasn't Bob Crow who refused to come to the negotiating table, it was Boris Johnson and TFL. They've refused to speak to the RMT for about four years now.
 
Right on the money OL. Mrs Thatcher would have heartily approved of some of the anti statements above. Yeah the unions take strong measures at times, but so do the management/government. Needs balancing out.
 
I seem to remember them striking because they wanted triple time on Bank Holidays after the RMT had previously agreed to time and a half.

I actually think that on many levels it was because they knew they could bring London to a standstill and thats when the support for them nose dived. From what I understand the majority of drivers didn't want to lose a days pay but were driven on by a militant few. If you look at the turn out for strike votes it was way under the required membership levels which is why some of the stokes were overturned in the courts.

My point re bankers was that the strike affected the ordinary individual on minimum wage more than it did the high earners.

 
Haven't bankers caused more heart ache for the ordinary individual on minimum wage than any tube driver ever would?
 
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