exhertsimp
Vital 1st Team Regular
My wicked uncle had a pack of cards with pictures of busty ladies on the back, but you couldn't really describe them as blue.
Blue cards
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Davidimp
Vital Football Legend
Sin bins are already in division Lincoln United play in for dissent
Long suffering Imp
Vital Squad Member
Dont some lower non leagues also allow subs to come back on? That'll be the next thing , they seem to try these things out low down first.
Davidimp
Vital Football Legend
Not seen it happen in the ucl where United play
Pompeyimp2
Vital Squad Member
They live in a different (money fuelled) world
Scotimp
Vital Football Legend
"You'll have one team sitting there trying to waste time for 10 minutes waiting for someone to come back on. Every other game is trying to speed up and declutter, all we are trying to do is go the other way for some bizarre reason."
- Ange Postegcoglou
"It doesn't sound like a fantastic idea in the first moment. But actually, I can't remember when the last fantastic idea came from IFAB - if they ever had one."
- Jurgen Klopp
- Ange Postegcoglou
"It doesn't sound like a fantastic idea in the first moment. But actually, I can't remember when the last fantastic idea came from IFAB - if they ever had one."
- Jurgen Klopp
Scotimp
Vital Football Legend
Alan Shearer says offside rule is an absolute joke:
Perhaps IFAB should focus on correcting its own catastrophic errors before it considers committing more.
'Handball rule is an absolute joke' - Shearer
Match of the Day pundits Alan Shearer and Martin Keown criticise the two penalties given in the Premier League match between Luton and Sheffield United.
www.bbc.co.uk
Perhaps IFAB should focus on correcting its own catastrophic errors before it considers committing more.
RAFNoctonimp
Vital Newbie
Football is an arrogant sport , they don’t like to learn from other sports. The games in a mess. Football laws have a number of similarities to both codes of Rugby and yet they are never applied especially in relation to descent . I have seen first hand a ref pinned to a wall by a player threatening the ref with violence and no action was taken because the FA are spineless at all levels of the game and this is because of the power of players , clubs and the tv companies. We all have been seen professional players biting opposition not once but on numerous occasions and no meaning consequences because they are worth millions. In other sports decent and biting etc do lead to a life time bans what ever the talent and value. A change in culture by players and clubs is needed and a binning is needed and applied if necessary for other offences. Long term it will make the game better as it will change behaviour on the field.
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RAFNoctonimp
Vital Newbie
Not introducing it would be stupid having seen it work well in both codes of rugby . Football can learn a lot from other sports. It does alter player attitudes and behaviours and helps to force players to respect the ref and laws of the game.
sedgleyimp
Vital Champions League
The ways teams can manipulate time wasting in Football is very different from that in Rugby and that will be what will happen with these blue cards. The laws of the game allow referees to deal with those proposed sanctions with yellow and red cards already and that needs to be supported from the highest level, not introduce a system which will lead to some farcical situations in the game
Scotimp
Vital Football Legend
Not the same type of game at all, rugby has a completely different tempo and natural flow to football. Reading around comments from all areas of the game, you are in a very small minority in supporting it.
Warrington Imp
Vital 1st Team Regular
Another ridiculous idea why cant sports administrators leave things as they are both red and yellow cards are sufficient if used properly by the referees.
There is not one manager who supports this introduction and it will just slow games down.
There is not one manager who supports this introduction and it will just slow games down.
RAFNoctonimp
Vital Newbie
I may be in a minority but sticking your head in the sand is not the solution . Football has a problem and it needs sorting.The point is how to change player behaviour , the situation is only getting worse and the current systems are not working especially at the top end of the game . Faining injuries, time wasting and diving outside the box are never penalised and Lincoln are as guilty for that as any club , some say it is game management but is games man'ship. Time wasting and abusing /intimidating of refs is common at all levels and are seldom punished with deterring sanctions and it is not being managed now. However if they went down the route of systematic time wasting crowds would fall thus impacting club incomes and ultimately wages the net result Turkeys voting for Christmas . Which is better try something new now to manage the player culture or allow it to continue get worse.
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Sincilbanks
Vital Football Hero
Bolting additional systems and regulations onto the game isn't the answer, giving the refs the authority and backing to manage the game properly and restore / enforce respect for the referee are also required...
All of those things are within the power of the referee to stop right now. Apply the existing laws forcefully and consistently and it will quickly stop!
If players get sent off for kicking the ball away twice, or back-chatting the ref twice, they won't do it a third time!
Sure, it would be farcical for a while, until the message sank in. But, no more so than yet another rule applied when it suits the ref.
Sadly, there appears no appetite to apply the rules as it would take, so no doubt IFAB will just continue to ruin the game ably assisted by those playing it.
PerthImp
Vital Football Hero
In my humble opinion the powers are there already, but the authorities don’t enforce them, plus the changes that happen with refereeing end up with offences and interpretation being so convoluted that refs don’t know which way to turn. Give powers back to linesmen to actually help referees, rather than refs saying to the linesmen ‘I’m in charge and I’ll only consult you for throw-ins’. I see so many offences which are deliberate and pre-meditated that end up with a yellow card or nothing. It’s these kinds of offences that ruin the game and refs should be dishing out red cards for. Like anything it’s not straightforward but refs should be intelligent enough to judge for themselves, with the help of their linos.
This. And referees applying them as well, because I still suspect some players get away with more than they should. New rules always start off well (shirt pulling at corners was one that saw lots of penalties early in a season a couple of years ago), but they eventually slip back into how it was before.
Rasenimp
Vital Football Legend
Dissent has been the same, cards were getting thrown everywhere in the Premier league for about two weeks and then they gave up
clanfordimp
Vital 1st Team Regular
Changing rules and bringing new rules in isn't the real issue. What the real issue is interpretation of those rules by a human being who is out there in the moment refereeing the match.
Interpretation of the rules by individual referees has to to be eradicated or else the rules will never be able to be applied as an actual rule but will always be applied as an interpretation of a rule based on how an individual referee sees it as it happens and you will just keep getting different outcomes to the same rule, that's where a lot of the problems lie.
The game is reffed by human beings and we all have our own ways and different tolerance levels so it is only human nature that with all the different referees there are out there some of them will apply different outcomes to the same rule, which is not right but its what happens.
That's not what the fans want though. Fans want to see consistency in outcomes for rule breaking. They want to see the rules applied to the letter of the laws of the game.
It's never going to happen though. As mentioned we have seen a crack down on the application of certain rules before and your lucky if it lasts five minutes before it just goes back to how it was before.
We're in a vicious circle because referees and officials aren't respected at any level of the game, professional or amateur so you'll probably find the standard of officiating will get worse in the future until they come up with some sort of artificial intelligence which will somehow inform the ref what decision to make.
Interpretation of the rules by individual referees has to to be eradicated or else the rules will never be able to be applied as an actual rule but will always be applied as an interpretation of a rule based on how an individual referee sees it as it happens and you will just keep getting different outcomes to the same rule, that's where a lot of the problems lie.
The game is reffed by human beings and we all have our own ways and different tolerance levels so it is only human nature that with all the different referees there are out there some of them will apply different outcomes to the same rule, which is not right but its what happens.
That's not what the fans want though. Fans want to see consistency in outcomes for rule breaking. They want to see the rules applied to the letter of the laws of the game.
It's never going to happen though. As mentioned we have seen a crack down on the application of certain rules before and your lucky if it lasts five minutes before it just goes back to how it was before.
We're in a vicious circle because referees and officials aren't respected at any level of the game, professional or amateur so you'll probably find the standard of officiating will get worse in the future until they come up with some sort of artificial intelligence which will somehow inform the ref what decision to make.
