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At last, English people make a stand against Islam

I'lll copy and paste what I put on Poshes board:

What can you do about fanatics? They are not in there right mind, every religion has them, the IRA were Catholic (like I was brought up to be), thing is people in this country are quite rightly taking a good long look at immigration and basically saying somethings got to change, they are not racist just realist. I used to back UKIP until the recent Question Time when two reasonably low ranking Tory and Labour women basically made Nigel Farage and Russel Brand look pretty silly (more Brand in my opinion). Attrocities like this will only make matters like this more prevelant, thing is the Eastern Europeans are as much as a problem in the UK as anyone. For me its not about colour or creed but the basic fact is our country is getting to saturation point, I know lots of muslims and eastern europeans work hard and fought alongside us in the war but I'm sorry I'm not wanting all my tax to go on keeping them at school and in hospital, theres simply too many of them and not enough room. It is good that both Labour and the Tories are recognising this and changing there policies at last. Feel free to call me a racist, I've lived in London in my youth amongst many creeds with little or no problems, for me its about numbers not colours.
 
At last Jamesimp, a person with open eyes speaking about how his own English culture is under threat.

I have friends from all of the above catagories however, I recognise that due to the population increasing to unsustainable levels; housing is very expensive, there is a strain on social services, the NHS, education and the welfare budget. Also, people who are on lower wages through inability, choice, poor education, geography etc. have been kept impoverished because of immigrant cheap labour. Immigrants live cheaper because they often live dozens of workers to a house. The spare money they earn is sent to the native country therefore is lost to the local and national economy of the UK.

Despite the above, the bigger threat to British and even European culture is through islamification (an ideology afflicting all races, although their racial attacks by asian men on white people is at epidemic levels).
I was a lifelong labour supporter (since before the miners strike), but their open door immigration policies, irresponsibility regarding the national debt and political correctness (which is destroying British culture) took me away from them.
I am now a floating voter, I will decide during the campaigns. However, the single most important aspect for me is the long term future of the UK. All estimates suggest the UK will be a majority islamic population between 2030-2035. That is in the same time scale as when John Beck got us promotion and now.
Only an estimate 3-8% of germans were Nazis before WW2 and look what happened there. History is full of societies where the violent minority has overcome the peaceful majority. Last wek there was a poll which suggested 80% of London's muslims (2 million) sided with ISIS. We are currently at war with ISIS in Iraq and Syria.
Because the generic populations of Europe are reproducing at 1.8 cildren per couple and the muslim populations at 8.1 children per couple, and the generic population getting older, the islamic population will have more young men of fighting age within 20 years. Want to take a risk with your kids future? Islamists are stateless and gun run across borders. The young fighters will be armed but not the generic populations.
If you aren't worried now then that's my fault for rushing through this.
Finally, without prejudice, look at left wing ideology, liberal and right wing ideologies. You will learn more and come to decide what best to follow. I recently completed a political compass test which gave my results in the catagory as Ghandi and Mother Teresa. So, I'm not a bad person as other poster try to suggest. Just a very afraid person.
 
martonimp - 11/1/2015 10:18

Ex-ref - this is a football site. I understand that you hold strong and heartfelt views about religion and society. I do not agree with you and find a lot of what you say extreme and bordering on offensive. I work with people of all backgrounds including muslims and count several among my friends. You have a right to express your opinions just as others have the right to respond and disagree with you. I use this site mainly to discuss football and occasionally other topics. I discuss issues such as politics on other sites and I am respectfully asking you to do the same.
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I'm just following the guidance of the board. Forums - off topic -all things non football.
 
Thing is though Ex-Ref, the video you posted on the other topic is a bit exaggerated and selectively truthful. All it is to the average person is scaremongering, I'm guessing it was done by the EDL or the BNP? You look at UKIP and think great they'll sort immigration but then what? Bit like the Boston Bypass party winning all them council seats, only sorting one issue, Farage really needs to stop smoking, drinking and smiling like a wide mouthed frog every time a camera gets near him or he will win very few seats and lose all his credibility, he needs to tell us what hes doing about the NHS, unemployment, taxation, the national debt and generally things that affect the working person. One thing about Farage that sets him apart from the rest of the leaders is that he comes across as straight and frank, when questioned he doesn't blame everyone else but merely states his opinion, that edition of Question Time was a breath of fresh air to the normal political debate.
 
I went to a UKIP meeting in my area a few weeks ago. The candidate was middle aged (nothing wrong with that), but politically naive. He hadn't even heard of islamification but was more concerned with hard working Polish people.
I wished him well having posed a few difficult audience questions. Unfortunately, UKIP will not have any experience in running a country. We will have a choice between labour and conservative.
Interestingly, most of the Sunday newspapers today have swung noticeably towards anti-islam. I hope this trend is not a reaction but a new way. Our next atrocity is probably a few days or weeks away, the security services have admitted they can't hold islamists back forever.
Regarding your opener. Unless a new study is embarked upon, all information is selective. However, I am a socialist at heart but use right wing information too. Whichever way I look at islamification I honestly believe that we are headed for a major conflict in our own country. Sleepy Lincoln will not be exempt.

 
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impede - 10/1/2015 17:27

I have never made a call for a user to be banned but surely racism is a reason. It is not acceptable and may get Vitals into trouble.
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Another typical left wing attitude is to call people racists when you are losing an argument. I probably have as many non-white friends as white -as I live close to London where the ethnic mix is healthier than Lincoln. Whenever was ilsam a race? Muslims are people, islamification is an ideology. Doh!
I have a degree in Deveolpment in the Third World. I have travelled to dozens of developing countries -my favourite is India. I have had girlfriends who's skin colour happened to be dark. I don't believe that my white skin makes me any better than other people. So if you are looking for a racist you'll have to look elsewhere.
You are attempting to get a person banned because of your own political views. You are the racist, regardless of us likely being the same colour, because it is you who are bringing race into the issue.

If you read the Koran, you will see that mohammed had sex with a nine year old girl, that he tells men to stone women to death and that all non believers or other faiths must be killed. This is not open for debate as it is there and followed by millions of islamists worldwide.

In our society, paedophilia, murder and stoning women are abhorrent and illegal. As the UK is destined to become an islamic majority population by 2030, I feel that all of us have a right to express our legal opinions when we wish to do so.

Did you complain anywhere when Lee Rigby was murdered in London.
Dud you complain anywhere when the London bus bombings happened.
Did you complain anywhere when the London bus bombings happened.
Did you complain anywhere when thousands of kids were raped my muslim groomers (most of which have to hit the headlines)
Did you complain anywhere when the hate preachers burnt poppies on rememberence Sunday.
If so show me the proof.

Ultimately, it will be your family at risk along with all generic British people in a few years time. Your wife, kids family friends will have to become islamic and follow Sharia law. I often say that Lincoln is in a bubble. Until a few thousand islamist move in you will remain there. Already, London, Luton, Birmingham, and Blackburn are English cities with minority generic British populations.
Just because uou don't know these things is no reason to try and get a football supporter banned from a forum.

Read more: http://www.lincoln.vitalfootball.co.uk/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=39218&start=35&posts=42#ixzz3OUsbPr52
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Ah, the old, I ain't racist, I've got black mates that is trotted out by every racist ever. I am anti-extremism of all sorts. That includes so called Islamists and also purveyors of race hate like you. PS, for someone who claims to be intelligent you claim not to be racist. I think you will find being anti a relgion is defined as racism in English Law so you are, plain and simply, legally a racist. Spreading race hate is illegal so just shut up.
 
impede - 11/1/2015 18:37

Ex-Ref - 11/1/2015 08:06

impede - 10/1/2015 17:27

I have never made a call for a user to be banned but surely racism is a reason. It is not acceptable and may get Vitals into trouble.
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Another typical left wing attitude is to call people racists when you are losing an argument. I probably have as many non-white friends as white -as I live close to London where the ethnic mix is healthier than Lincoln. Whenever was ilsam a race? Muslims are people, islamification is an ideology. Doh!
I have a degree in Deveolpment in the Third World. I have travelled to dozens of developing countries -my favourite is India. I have had girlfriends who's skin colour happened to be dark. I don't believe that my white skin makes me any better than other people. So if you are looking for a racist you'll have to look elsewhere.
You are attempting to get a person banned because of your own political views. You are the racist, regardless of us likely being the same colour, because it is you who are bringing race into the issue.

If you read the Koran, you will see that mohammed had sex with a nine year old girl, that he tells men to stone women to death and that all non believers or other faiths must be killed. This is not open for debate as it is there and followed by millions of islamists worldwide.

In our society, paedophilia, murder and stoning women are abhorrent and illegal. As the UK is destined to become an islamic majority population by 2030, I feel that all of us have a right to express our legal opinions when we wish to do so.

Did you complain anywhere when Lee Rigby was murdered in London.
Dud you complain anywhere when the London bus bombings happened.
Did you complain anywhere when the London bus bombings happened.
Did you complain anywhere when thousands of kids were raped my muslim groomers (most of which have to hit the headlines)
Did you complain anywhere when the hate preachers burnt poppies on rememberence Sunday.
If so show me the proof.

Ultimately, it will be your family at risk along with all generic British people in a few years time. Your wife, kids family friends will have to become islamic and follow Sharia law. I often say that Lincoln is in a bubble. Until a few thousand islamist move in you will remain there. Already, London, Luton, Birmingham, and Blackburn are English cities with minority generic British populations.
Just because uou don't know these things is no reason to try and get a football supporter banned from a forum.

Read more: http://www.lincoln.vitalfootball.co.uk/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=39218&start=35&posts=42#ixzz3OUsbPr52
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Ah, the old, I ain't racist, I've got black mates that is trotted out by every racist ever. I am anti-extremism of all sorts. That includes so called Islamists and also purveyors of race hate like you. PS, for someone who claims to be intelligent you claim not to be racist. I think you will find being anti a relgion is defined as racism in English Law so you are, plain and simply, legally a racist. Spreading race hate is illegal so just shut up.
 
So, you are an expert on English law? Kindly post your qualifications and experience. Or have you made it all up? You have not brought to the debate a single idea that is not directly from the socialists ABC book of standard responses.
One question is for you alone. At what percentage of the British population being islamic would you begin to feel uncomfortable?




 
By the way "expert in English Law". If you would kike to introduce a race element. There are no laws in London to stop white flight. 600,000 white Londoners have moved away from the capital in the last ten years. This on top of the millions that left before then (including all of my wifes extended family). Government statistics. 2 miliion muslims have replaced them.

Of course, you will be the last person to leave Lincoln if it became totally non-white eh? Are these government statistics racist or do they show something more -like frightened generic english people -like my wifes family?
Perhaps it is you who should shut up.
 
I despise Brevik, he is one person I could kill. You have been proven wrong on all counts. Ta ta!
 
Jamesimp - 11/1/2015 11:16

I'lll copy and paste what I put on Poshes board:

What can you do about fanatics? They are not in there right mind, every religion has them, the IRA were Catholic (like I was brought up to be),
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The IRA were and are not a Catholic organisation. They were set up as a guerrilla organisation to win independence for Ireland. They had several prominent Protestants among their ranks. To my knowledge the IRA, whist having committed atrocities, at no stage did so in the name of Catholicism.

 
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