Managerial merry go round
- Thread starter brisimp
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cdhIMP
Vital 1st Team Regular
I think some of them are stuck in the 90’s/00’s and they think they should still be in the Premier League.
Scotimp
Vital Football Legend
Perhaps being diagnosed with cancer had something to do with it?
This mindless revisionism is driving me mad. Just to recap on Appleton's achievements here:
** Club record for season tickets sold in the early bird window (4,000+ in 2020-21)
** Club record for goals scored in cup matches in a season (30) in 2020-21
** Club record away win in the League Cup (5-0 v Bradford City, 15/9/2020); it also equals the club record win in the League Cup home or away
** Joint club record for league wins from the start of a season (4 in 2020-21)
** Joint club record win in the Football League Trophy (4-0 v Accrington Stanley, 12/1/2021)
** Joint club record for away league wins in a season (13 in 2020-21)
** Club record for away wins in a Football League season (13 in 2020-21)
** Club record for successive away league wins in one season (6 in 2020-21)
** Club record for points away from home in a season (45 in 2020-21)
** Club record for points away from home in a Football League season (45 in 2020-21)
** Joint club record for fewest away defeats in a Football League season (4 in 2020-21)
** Highest league placing for 39 years (5th in the third tier)
** Best away record in League One in 2020-21 (P23 W13 D6 L4 F34 A20 Pts45)
** Remained in the top six in League One for the entire 2020-21 season on a bottom ten budget
** First ever appearance in the play-offs in the third tier (2020-21)
** First ever appearance in the play-off final in the third tier (2020-21)
** 100 goals in a season in all competitions for the 11th time in the club’s history (103 in 2020-21)
** Club record for away goals in all competitions in a season (52 in 2020-21)
** Joint club record for the number of games played in a season (61 in 2020-21)
Pompeyimp2
Vital Squad Member
.....but apart from that???
clanfordimp
Vital 1st Team Regular
.....well after all that he started fcucking about at the back, which was the start of his downfall.
Nobody would deny he gave the club one fantastic season but unless he is winning football matches to keep the fans onside his personality and demeanor was about as dour as the football he eventually served up.
Yes he unfortunately had his health problems and he might have been a completely different character away from football but as a manager and a leader of a football club he was about as inspiring as a dead fish.
Ruskingtony
Vital Squad Member
All very impressive and a brilliant season for us all to enjoy.
Sadly in football management what you achieved in your last season means nothing if you fail in your current one.
He lost his job because of season 2021-22. Despite what he did in 20-21.
God. He had one really good season which unfortunately wasn't crowned with promotion despite great opportunity. I appreciate that but he won nothing in the end.
As for his horrible illness it would be strange if that did not affect his life and pushed football aside.
You can't however use it as a reason for everything thst wasn't exactly as great as Brennan Johnson's performances for us. And I'm talking before and after MA spell at Lincoln too.
Atmosphere around the club wasn't nowhere near as good as under Cowleys and not only because of results in his final season. Don't forget club decided to part company with him. That is not revisionism. Just like certain things I didn't like.
His arrogance, singling out players, disrespectful behaviour towards some of them (Shackell ..), don't giving a damn about fans, self orientated interviews, inability to accept own mistakes, having terrible transfer window which had to be rectified in winter, silly comments about putting people ( fans...) to be fed by a straw and many more
Bottom line I'm happy we had that almost perfect season but I'm also happy that he left.
For me what's happened now at Charlton is not accidental....
Chesterimp
Vital Football Hero
So presumably on the basis that he won nothing and his last season was a bit meh, Keith Alexander was a failure too in your eyes?
mikeosullivan
Vital Squad Member
That all relates to one season Scot. I have read no comments on here that denigrates the job he did in that season.
He did a superb job that year. Outside of the Taylor, Murphy, Alexander and Cowley years, a truly memorable year - even though we only saw most of it on screen.
However MA's record in every other season he has been a manager apart from that season and one at Oxford have been mediocre - and the supporters of every club he has been at were glad to see the back of him.
Were any fans at the time glad to see the back of Taylor, Murphy, Alexander or the Cowleys?
Appleton was not in the same league as any of those four, despite that one excellent season.
Barney Imp
Vital Champions League
Merthyr Imp
Vital Football Hero
Some were glad to see the back of Murphy second time around. Maybe to an extent the first time around too as there was a feeling he'd run out of steam at the end of the 84/85 season.
Chesterimp
Vital Football Hero
The performances and final outcome in that one excellent season shows Appleton wasn't in the same league. He was in a higher one.
No. That is just your conclusion.
There might be countless number of reasons for which manager might not be the right man for the job.
libertine
Vital Squad Member
A higher one than the Cowleys for us? Unbelievable!
Just a fact.
Cowley produced teams at the top of NL and L2.
Appleton one higher up the pyramid in L1.
Murphy also at L1
clanfordimp
Vital 1st Team Regular
I'll raise that with....
Appleton produced a team that got knocked out the FA Cup by Hartlepool United.
Cowley produced a non league team that got to the FA Cup quarter final.
Pompeyimp2
Vital Squad Member
Thus proving that Appleton knew far more about the traditions of LCFC than did the Cowleys!
clanfordimp
Vital 1st Team Regular
