EU strategy to destroy the Chequers ‘agreement’...

[Archiepoptart]

I’m off to Appledore to get some Appledore Mussels, which I couldn’t get before because they were all exported to Europe.
Gawd bless Brexit

Pull the ladder up Im ok so stuff everybody else. Why would anyone expect anything else

 

[shotshy]

Pull the ladder up Im ok so stuff everybody else. Why would anyone expect anything else

I’m genuinely curious as to why you are so pro Eu and so anti Brexit considering you live half way around the world Archie.
Do you intend to return and think it may affect your employment situation or is it just that you don’t totally respect democracy?

 

[Buddha]

I’m genuinely curious as to why you are so pro Eu and so anti Brexit considering you live half way around the world Archie.
Do you intend to return and think it may affect your employment situation or is it just that you don’t totally respect democracy?

It does make me laugh the way Brexiteers go on about 'democracy'. The referendum was a simple Yes/No (or Leave/Remain, if you prefer) question, that happened five years ago. People seem to forget or ignore the actions of politicians in charge if the process following two general elections.

People also seem to forget that Farridge, believing that the Leave campaign had lost by a small margin was calling the process undemocratic and was demanding a second referendum. Quickly changed his tune about that once he realised it was his side which had narrowly won.

Democracy my arse.

 

[shotshy]

It does make me laugh the way Brexiteers go on about 'democracy'. The referendum was a simple Yes/No (or Leave/Remain, if you prefer) question, that happened five years ago. People seem to forget or ignore the actions of politicians in charge if the process following two general elections.

People also seem to forget that Farridge, believing that the Leave campaign had lost by a small margin was calling the process undemocratic and was demanding a second referendum. Quickly changed his tune about that once he realised it was his side which had narrowly won.

Democracy my arse.

On the contrary mate.
A binary win or lose vote is the most perfect of democracy.
50% + 1
Let’s be totally honest, both sides of the argument as to whether to remain or leave both bullshitted through the top of their heads.
It’s what all politicians do.
Just listen to Wee Mrs Sturgeon to confirm that.
As I’ve said many times, it won’t be as great as some hoped and it won’t be as bad as some feared.
Just different.
The problems that some are encountering with staffing in hospitality is exactly the same problem that Spain and Malta are encountering because the cheap Eastern Europeans have gone back to their homelands.
Very little to do with leaving the Eu.
As we all know, 5.6 million Eu citizens have applied to stay here. They have chosen to stay here.
Maybe it’s not so bad here after all.

 

[ThreeSixes]

Very little to do with leaving the Eu.
As we all know, 5.6 million Eu citizens have applied to stay here. They have chosen to stay here..

Probably so they can keep their mobile phone contract and not be hit with roaming charges

 

[Trashbat]

Logically, that should only affect the food we import from the EU, making it less competitive.

Just keep checking the labels, support domestic goods and choose to reject the EU produce, as and where you can, if it gets too expensive.

If you really insist on buying it, the price increase will hardly be a rare occurence as food does tend to increase in price, year on year, for all sorts of reasons and the typical M & S shopper can afford it.

What’s in your fridge-freezer GBN?

Any frozen chips, salad, citrus fruits, cheddar cheese, bacon, can of beer, bottle of wine? Guarantee that the vast majority of the contents of your fridge-freezer come from Europe and beyond. To suggest that you can avoid the increased costs is stupid.

 

[Buddha]

UK fishermen feel, "stitched up and sold out" by Brexit betrayal:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...erendum-fishing-betrayal-newlyn-b1867151.html

Brexit not so sweet for UK sugar beet farmers:
https://www.politico.eu/article/brexit-sugar-beet-uk-australia-liz-truss-trade/

Leave campaigners 'surprised' by decay in relations with EU:
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...sed-by-sour-relations-with-eu-says-lord-frost

EU prepares to cut amount of British TV and film to be shown post Brexit:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/21/eu-prepares-cut-amount-british-tv-film-shown-brexit

UK to face summer of food shortages due to lack of lorry drivers:
https://www.theguardian.com/busines...f-food-shortages-due-to-lack-of-lorry-drivers

 

[GillsBluenose]

What’s in your fridge-freezer GBN?

Any frozen chips, salad, citrus fruits, cheddar cheese, bacon, can of beer, bottle of wine? Guarantee that the vast majority of the contents of your fridge-freezer come from Europe and beyond. To suggest that you can avoid the increased costs is stupid.

Thats exactly the point, and why our buying habits needs to change. With the exception of citrus fruits, we have producers of all those products.

If European products increase in price or are delayed due to typical EU bureaucracy, red tape and intransigence, hit them in the pocket and give an incentive to our producers to increase productivity to fill the gap, while saving undue transport miles and costs at the same time.

I am sure the EU wont mind as they will still be of the opinion that we need them more than they need us.

 

[GillsBluenose]

Pull the ladder up Im ok so stuff everybody else. Why would anyone expect anything else

Yeah, like those who can afford to go abroad all the time still plead poverty when the roaming costs on their mobile increase by a massive £2 per day, only when a massive threshold is exceeded.

Personally, only being able to afford a staycation means I will be unaffected by that.

 

[GillsBluenose]

UK fishermen feel, "stitched up and sold out" by Brexit betrayal:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...erendum-fishing-betrayal-newlyn-b1867151.html

Brexit not so sweet for UK sugar beet farmers:
https://www.politico.eu/article/brexit-sugar-beet-uk-australia-liz-truss-trade/

Leave campaigners 'surprised' by decay in relations with EU:
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...sed-by-sour-relations-with-eu-says-lord-frost

EU prepares to cut amount of British TV and film to be shown post Brexit:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/21/eu-prepares-cut-amount-british-tv-film-shown-brexit

UK to face summer of food shortages due to lack of lorry drivers:
https://www.theguardian.com/busines...f-food-shortages-due-to-lack-of-lorry-drivers

1, The Independent
2. EU news outlet
3, 4 & 5 - The Grauniad

Pretty balanced reporting, there then.

The TV and Film one is interesting though in that the EU appear to be ready to make one of their "directives", regardless of what their viewers wish to watch. Sort of confirms previous impressions of dictatorship.

 

[Gills 58]

1, The Independent
2. EU news outlet
3, 4 & 5 - The Grauniad

Pretty balanced reporting, there then.

The TV and Film one is interesting though in that the EU appear to be ready to make one of their "directives", regardless of what their viewers wish to watch. Sort of confirms previous impressions of dictatorship.

You can rely on the Express. That will tell you the truth GBN.

 

[GillsBluenose]

You can rely on the Express. That will tell you the truth GBN.

No better and no worse than any of the rest of the press. All have their own agendas but can be sued if they tell a provable lie.

Buddha's posts are actually pretty balanced, considering their source.

The Independent article is subscription only, but seems to indicate that some fisherman are not happy that they have not had an immediate benefit as they had hoped, rather than actually claiming that Brexit has made their situation worse.

The Politico article actually says that Tate & Lyle London refinery will benefit from Brexit as tough import restrictions "dreamed up in Brussels" (how rare) had previously raised import costs and strangled their business.

The first Guardian article just said that relations with the EU were tense due to the NI issue, which we all knew, and the second one showed their pettiness in trying to manipulate their citizens' entertainment tastes. The third one was about the shortage of lorry drivers which is a labour issue, already being addressed by improvement to working conditions and pay as well as increased testing.

 

[Gills 58]

"Express no worse". Just listen to yourself GBN.

 

[Trashbat]

Thats exactly the point, and why our buying habits needs to change. With the exception of citrus fruits, we have producers of all those products.

If European products increase in price or are delayed due to typical EU bureaucracy, red tape and intransigence, hit them in the pocket and give an incentive to our producers to increase productivity to fill the gap, while saving undue transport miles and costs at the same time.

I am sure the EU wont mind as they will still be of the opinion that we need them more than they need us.

Yeah. We have loads of spare growing and picking labour to grow all of our own. Let’s do it.

Learn about comparative advantage meanwhile list to this Tory bloke...

The result of having fewer workers will be to send British growers to "the bottom of the list," Tory MP and chair of the committee Neil Parish told The Sun.​

He said last night: "We need to get more home-grown labour picking our fruit and veg - but the numbers here are not enough.​

​

 

[Tarian]

UK fishermen feel, "stitched up and sold out" by Brexit betrayal:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...erendum-fishing-betrayal-newlyn-b1867151.html

Brexit not so sweet for UK sugar beet farmers:
https://www.politico.eu/article/brexit-sugar-beet-uk-australia-liz-truss-trade/

Leave campaigners 'surprised' by decay in relations with EU:
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...sed-by-sour-relations-with-eu-says-lord-frost

EU prepares to cut amount of British TV and film to be shown post Brexit:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/21/eu-prepares-cut-amount-british-tv-film-shown-brexit

UK to face summer of food shortages due to lack of lorry drivers:
https://www.theguardian.com/busines...f-food-shortages-due-to-lack-of-lorry-drivers

Miserable spin - all from leftist organs

 

[Tarian]

People also seem to forget that Farridge, believing that the Leave campaign had lost by a small margin was calling the process undemocratic and was demanding a second referendum. Quickly changed his tune about that once he realised it was his side which had narrowly won.

It is true that on the evening of 23rd June Farage thought Remain might have edged it - relying on informal exit polls in London.
But when on Referendum day did he "demand a second referendum" ?

 

[Tarian]

£2 a day.

Any leavers still think it was the right decision to leave?

Well don't "roam" then.

When abroad, I always keep my phone off - until actually needed.
And then I tend to stick to texts. Simples !

 

[Buddha]

It is true that on the evening of 23rd June Farage thought Remain might have edged it - relying on informal exit polls in London.
But when on Referendum day did he "demand a second referendum" ?

Is your issue with this my use of the word 'demanded'?

Farridge certainly said that, "in a 52-48 referendum this would be unfinished business by a long way. If the remain campaign win two-thirds to one-third that ends it.”

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/nigel-farage-wants-second-referendum-7985017

 

[shotshy]

Congratulations to Trashbat for the thread hitting 14,500 posts.
It must be a record.

 

[LSB2]

Congratulations to Trashbat for the thread hitting 14,500 posts.
It must be a record.

I've noticed how much people's views have changed during this thread...