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Here we go!

No offence, but only an idiot would believe Trump was "supportive" of anything.

He saw Brexit as potentially harming the EU, which is what he wanted.

He's had months to do a trade deal; even the bare bones don't exist and even the negotiating principals set out should be unacceptable to anyone in this country

that’s actually not true on any level..they are not far off a deal. Of course there was a presidential election and covid in the way..
 
It is certainly better than a no deal, but it looks far from being good, if the reports are accurate.

Manufacturing supply chains will need to be changed significantly if components from Japan and Turkey are not going to be included in the Tariff exemptions; there is the distinct possibility that it will disincentivise Nissan and Toyota from continuing to have a presence here.

The Fishing aspect looks like a potential flashpoint now that Boris has allowed access between 6 and 12 miles, something he swore he would not allow.

In fact the more you read the more it looks like Boris has conceded just about everything so that he could avoid having the equivalence mechanism enforced.
Good news, as in when an earthquake kills a thousand people and the emergency services rescue a child from the rubble on the fourth day. Undoubtedly good news, but you wouldn't have wanted to start from there.
 
Imagine disliking your country so much that you actually wanted the EU to give us a bad deal?
Ah the default excuse of the brexiteer - that Remainers want a bad deal.

No. We. Don’t. We want the deal we already had. Failing that we want the best deal possible.

Unfortunately we expect a bad deal from this balls up of a Government.

Then again #easiestdealinhistory
 
A summary in the Guardian by David Henig of the UK Trade Policy Project. It looks like a hollow victory - as Bozo will try to spin it as a win. What foolishness.
"For the UK this looks like finally the end of five years of turbulent politics dominated by the EU relationship. Three consecutive autumns dominated by the question of deal or not. The question has for the time being been settled, with a preferential relationship greater than WTO but less than customs union or single market. There will be continuous negotiations on areas of detail in the future, but most will barely trouble the media or political worlds. Overall there will be some form of stability, even if uneasily in a UK split between those wanting closer and more distant EU relations, and with particular challenges in Scotland and Northern Ireland.
There will of course be major challenges in the future relationship. Ultimately the EU achieved their main goals from Brexit, and the UK arguably did not. The EU successfully avoided a border on the island of Ireland and protected the single market from significant cherry picking. The UK succeeded in the headline goal of leaving the EU, but failed as proponents had expected to retain the benefits of membership without incurring the costs, and more recently in overturning any of the withdrawal agreement as the staunch Brexiteers had hoped. The EU also looks stronger for demonstrating so far that leaving is not an easy option, while the UK’s ability to maintain trade relations while escaping ‘the Brussels Effect’ of following EU regulations is going to be tested, business for example will wish to reverse the decision to leave some European regulatory agencies."
 
Yay, our damage to the economy will be partially mitigated. Who cares that business and the country will be worse off? Now a fat clown can pretend to be Churchill and halfwit racists can all celebrate. That's so much more important than actual economics.
 
Fantastic news. Sovereignty and a free trade deal against the predictions of the many not the few. Hopefully a reasonable compromise.

Now time to build back Britain better.

Happy Christmas everyone
A quote from the Daily Mail?
 
Yay, our damage to the economy will be partially mitigated. Who cares that business and the country will be worse off? Now a fat clown can pretend to be Churchill and halfwit racists can all celebrate. That's so much more important than actual economics.

Everyone I know who supported brexit haven’t a rascist bone in their bodies. Most brexiteers welcome immigration from all around the world. Just managed in accordance with the needs of the uk economy. Never mind. You keep spouting that nonsense.
 
Ah the default excuse of the brexiteer - that Remainers want a bad deal.

No. We. Don’t. We want the deal we already had. Failing that we want the best deal possible.

Unfortunately we expect a bad deal from this balls up of a Government.

Then again #easiestdealinhistory

I think it probably has been. To get a deal this quick between two big economies is a great effort.
May have been easy after all.
Next India and US trade deals before the EU and then the big one, RCEP.
Watch us fly.
 
You should get the French sprouts on Dec 29th with any luck...

Got mine, grown locally. Not sure why we’d have such food miles for produce which loves our climate. In fact everything on my, Xmas dinner is all grown locally; the drink is a different matter. Veuve and chateau Palmer we still have to import.
 
A summary in the Guardian by David Henig of the UK Trade Policy Project. It looks like a hollow victory - as Bozo will try to spin it as a win. What foolishness.
"For the UK this looks like finally the end of five years of turbulent politics dominated by the EU relationship. Three consecutive autumns dominated by the question of deal or not. The question has for the time being been settled, with a preferential relationship greater than WTO but less than customs union or single market. There will be continuous negotiations on areas of detail in the future, but most will barely trouble the media or political worlds. Overall there will be some form of stability, even if uneasily in a UK split between those wanting closer and more distant EU relations, and with particular challenges in Scotland and Northern Ireland.
There will of course be major challenges in the future relationship. Ultimately the EU achieved their main goals from Brexit, and the UK arguably did not. The EU successfully avoided a border on the island of Ireland and protected the single market from significant cherry picking. The UK succeeded in the headline goal of leaving the EU, but failed as proponents had expected to retain the benefits of membership without incurring the costs, and more recently in overturning any of the withdrawal agreement as the staunch Brexiteers had hoped. The EU also looks stronger for demonstrating so far that leaving is not an easy option, while the UK’s ability to maintain trade relations while escaping ‘the Brussels Effect’ of following EU regulations is going to be tested, business for example will wish to reverse the decision to leave some European regulatory agencies."

Lol.
 
Yay, our damage to the economy will be partially mitigated. Who cares that business and the country will be worse off? Now a fat clown can pretend to be Churchill and halfwit racists can all celebrate. That's so much more important than actual economics.

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Everyone I know who supported brexit haven’t a rascist bone in their bodies. Most brexiteers welcome immigration from all around the world. Just managed in accordance with the needs of the uk economy. Never mind. You keep spouting that nonsense.

Everyone has a racist bone in their body, everyone. The fact you're so blissfully unaware speaks volumes...
 
Everyone has a racist bone in their body, everyone. The fact you're so blissfully unaware speaks volumes...

sorry chap. I genuinely don’t. I never judge by anything other than pure character and personal interaction and I’ve always hired based on pure merit