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herringthorpe

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Just to say that I was disgusted with what happened at the New York Stadium - as a lot of others have said I thought we'd seen the last of that sort of behaviour in the 70's.

But, I am quite sure that not all Millwall fans are like that. I seem to remember Zip walking round The Den earlier this season, in Rotherham attire, taking 'photo's, collecting autographs and talking to fans of Millwall. And my friend Jack didn't have a problem walking round to their shop in his Rotherham top.

Unfortunately, the 'bad' supporters of Millwall are in the news again and have also dragged Rotherham back into the news (makes a change doesn't it!)

Suggestions on how to stop it? The Police didn't make arrests yesterday which somewhat surprised me, but there are plenty of pictures around in the media of fans causing trouble so I don't think they'll have much problem identifying them.

Banning orders I suppose will be issued and probably Millwall fans will be stopped from travelling - which is a shame for the genuine supporters who really do want to go to watch a football game.

All way through this I've said 'Millwall Fans' but I really don't think they are fans - do you?
 
Good three points for you - a "six pointer" in the true sense of the phrase.

Seen the pictures of yesterdays "problems", like you say it's a shame for the decent fans that get tarred with the same brush.

Nowt confirmed , but i have heard that there were "clashes" between Boro and Millwall fans at the train station in Sheffield.
 
Oooo, not heard owt about that DM, re 'clashes' between Boro and Millwall fans.

Just for the record Caz, did you high-tail it out of the stadium straight away? So as not to get caught up in the affray?

I did wonder, looking at all the recordings, why the Rotherham fans hung about.

 
I stopped and applauded the players like I always do, though I did expect to see the Millwall fans kept in the ground so us Millers could disperse, but that, apparently wasn't to be done.

I walked from the ground, on my own, onto Wellgate where I was meeting others. My lad and his friend left the ground and went a different way to me into town and my daughter and her partner came out after me and followed me - none of us saw any trouble at all outside the ground so where this other trouble took place I'm not sure.

Not heard about the trouble between 'Boro and Millwall at the railway station - were there no Police escorts with the Millwall fans?

You know, it's the children who saw the problems in the ground that I feel sorry for - must have worried some of them to death.
 
That's a relief that you weren't anywhere near all the happening Caz, phew! I was worried about you, hence the text, asking if you was okay, lol!!
 
We too always wait to applaud the players and saw no trouble after the match. I thought all the stewards and police in the 'tunnel' at the corner of the west stand in my opinion should have come over and strengthened the cordon between the fans much earlier. Why whoever threw that section of fencing was not arrested I cannot understand!
My granddaughter was at her first match and unfortunately the only seats I could get for her and her dad were Block 8 in the family stand. A coin missed her head by a couple of inches and they managed to move a little further away from the corner.
I sincerely hope if (and I believe we won't be in the same league next year!) Millwall come to NYS again they will not be allowed to bring ' people ' with them! I refuse to call them supporters or fans - they are a disgrace to the game!! I was truly saddened by their behaviour.
 
Same as me. I didn't see a thing, apart from the Millwall fans in the ground. They went home with there tails between there legs. No, I didn't see a thing.
 
They are scum, there is no other word for them. I have seen plenty over the years and they don't care who they hit. I was at their opening day game with Donny in 2007. It was kicking off in the ground from the word go and then at the full time whistle, South Yorkshire Police, the same as yesterday, thought it was ok to let them out at the same time as the home fans. There were kids, women and old people being hit, infact one of the worst behaved in the Millwall end was a woman!

Later in the season at Leeds, they were at it again and for the last thirty minutes they just had running battles with the Police in the ground. At the end of the game, it all spilled out onto the streets.

Usually an away trip to Millwall goes off reasonably peaceful. If you go by train, they are nowhere to be seen and you get ushered in off South Bermondsey station with no Millwall fans able to get to within 200m. Two seasons ago, the game was moved to Sunday by Sky TV. The problem with this was, South Bermondsey station was closed so we had to get off at Surrey Quays and walk the mile to the ground. Amazingly, on the way in, we had no Police escort and it passed off with no incident. Going back to the station was a completely different experience. It was like going back 30 years as bricks, wood and iron bars were thrown at us from all angles.

On the same day, our supporters branch providing two young mascots for the game. After going on the pitch pre kick off, they then had to walk around the perimeter of the pitch to get to the away end. They were coined all the way round by the home fans.

It is not a one off with them. They even got into a fight amongst themselves in the FA Cup semi-final at Wembley a few years ago.

Ironically, a few weeks ago, their manager Ian Holloway was complaining that Leeds make their fans pick up their tickets from a service station and they were not the animals they have been tagged with. The same manager slated his own fans after the opening day game against Leeds because of their behaviour.

I know we are no shrinking violets at Leeds and every club as their minority of idiots who give their club a bad name but at Millwall, I would say it is a majority.

Until they are hit hard, and I mean point deductions or relegations, it will not change.

I certainly don't want to go back to the dark days of the 70's and 80's but unfortunately there is a generous of teenagers now who are living off their dads tales from that era. At Millwall a lot of those over 40's are still at it!
 
I saw only a few teenagers among their fans and noticed that most of 'em were actually in their 40's, 50's and even 60's.
I was sat on the front row of ES8 which is the end section of the family stand, right next to the away end and where most of the trouble kicked off.
It was mainly singing songs from them in the first half because they were happy to be 1-0 up in the game, but the second half was completely different because we equalised almost straight from the kick-off, and when we scored our second it became very frightening because we all thought that they were going to breach the line of police and stewards until the riot police came running in with helmets on and batons drawn, but even then the police struggled to keep them away from the home fans.
They threw anything they could lay their hands on, and I saw one of them throw his matchday programme, what's that all about? :19:
But the craziest thing I've ever heard of was that one complete idiot even threw his mobile phone across at the home fans, how stupid is that?
If I'd got the phone I would hand it straight to the police and get one of the idiots locked up and banned.
I'm not saying that the Rotherham fans were blameless because they too were "gesturing" towards the Millwall fans, but for some reason the Millwall fans seem to always take it to the next level, it's as though they've got something to prove, but why? :21:
 
It seems they have a reputation to hold up of being the 'hardest fans in British football' doesn't it.

I'd forgotten about your granddaughter being in that stand, sixpence. My 'friend for a fiver' was also in that stand and he said he could see what was going to happen so began to make his way out of the ground after we got our second.

I did wonder if 'our fans' had also been doing the 'come on if you're hard enough act' - I mean, what were the club thinking of putting another 300 or so tickets on sale on FRIDAY and announcing it to all and sundry? Is it only me wondering how many Owls fans were in that stand now on the data base hoping to get tickets for our game with Wednesday? I really hope I'm wrong.
 
Not condoning Millwall fans at all as they have morons who go to England games as well but the Millers fans gesturing didn't cover themselves in glory either. Rapidly falling out of love with the professional game with it's exhorbitant wages, entry fees, cheating players and idiot fans. It's only a game ! Much prefer going to non league where, apart from the odd incident, the atmosphere is much more friendly and honest
 
herringthorpe - 1/3/2015 10:08 PM

It seems they have a reputation to hold up of being the 'hardest fans in British football' doesn't it.

I'd forgotten about your granddaughter being in that stand, sixpence. My 'friend for a fiver' was also in that stand and he said he could see what was going to happen so began to make his way out of the ground after we got our second.

I did wonder if 'our fans' had also been doing the 'come on if you're hard enough act' - I mean, what were the club thinking of putting another 300 or so tickets on sale on FRIDAY and announcing it to all and sundry? Is it only me wondering how many Owls fans were in that stand now on the data base hoping to get tickets for our game with Wednesday? I really hope I'm wrong.
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Funny you should mention that Caz because about 30 of the "home" fans were escorted in just before kick-off and sat in the seats which were nearest the away fans.
Another thing that I noticed was that the Millwall fans who were causing all the trouble were seated there right from kick-off time, in other words, when the trouble flared up in the second half, it wasn't other Millwall fans coming to join in but the fans who were already seated there which I thought was strange, and led me to thinking that maybe ALL Millwall fans are inclined to be trouble causers. :155:
 
Another theory is that the Millwall fans didn't sit in the seats allocated on their tickets but instead just sat anywhere which would allow any fan wanting to cause trouble to sit together as close to the home fans as possible.
I did notice that there weren't any women among them which was another thing that I thought was strange. :27:
 
Pukka Pieman - 2/3/2015 8:47 AM

Not condoning Millwall fans at all as they have morons who go to England games as well but the Millers fans gesturing didn't cover themselves in glory either. Rapidly falling out of love with the professional game with it's exhorbitant wages, entry fees, cheating players and idiot fans. It's only a game ! Much prefer going to non league where, apart from the odd incident, the atmosphere is much more friendly and honest
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Pukka Pieman, I too get a bit fed up with all the overpaid prima donnas in the Premiership and the showboating and diving and cheating that goes on.
I find it obscene the amount of money being paid to some of the top earners, I mean, £250,000 a week? the world's gone mad.

As for our fans gesturing towards the Millwall fans, it happens every game but when you get the morons from Millwall in town then it becomes another matter and they take it to the next level, and we've been seeing it on our t.v. screens since the 70's where Millwall "fans" have disgraced their club.
I thought we'd left all that behind in the 70's and 80's but apparently not, it's still alive and kicking, and living in south east London. :21:
 
And do you know I didn't notice one Millwall fan in colours

Re the prima donna Premiership players (well, any pro player I suppose) isn't it our fault for still going to watch them/buying the merchandise? Are we condoning their big wages?
 
Regarding colours Caz, we actually counted four wearing scarves with another one of them wearing the yellow away shirt (and how he got one to fit him well God only knows because he was a big BIG lad)

And yes, I suppose we fans are helping to pay the wages of the big earners but it's more down to the amount of t.v. revenue that's come into the game with England getting the "lion's share" because our premier league is apparently the most watched anywhere in the world, because it's the best, and you can't argue with that I suppose.
 
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