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It's not so long ago that Labour under Corbyn was......

Wayne.Kerr - 6/10/2017 21:08

Tories to build a lot more council houses! Then sell them off.
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..... And ?????
Do "Right-to-buy" houses mysteriously disappear?
The tenants-become-buyers have to live somewhere.

What is it with socialists that they use such a flawed argument to thwart the natural aspiration of hard-working folk to own their home ?
 
jokerman - 7/10/2017 00:16

Dead right about France. High productivity from those actually in work. So what do we want, small productive work force and the rest looked after or more people engaged in meaningful, if not necessarily efficient/profitable, work?
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Something has to give , and I'm sure every political persuasion accepts that things cannot continue as they are. Big challenges await our world.
 
Low skills and poor infrastructure blamed for UK productivity gap. London and South East are the only parts of UK with output above the national average. Earnings per hour for British workers is less than even Italy due to continued lack of investment. UK productivity hit by workers joining service sector. The switch away from high productivity manufacturing weighs down statistics
 
It's the very low investment both private and public that is causing our low productivity, diddly squat to do with the EU.
 
To those who thought the nice Mr. Trump would give us a good deal:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-41532309

The US destroyed the UK aircraft industry with illegal subsidies. Its trying again with this trick.

Boeing is among the most underhand of US companies as they know critical mass in the aircraft industry is everything. Lose it and you go under.

 
Though the prospect of leaving the EU is blamed for the fall in the pound etc., etc., whereas it is investment that has achieved that when nothing so far has actually changed.
 
Razor, the value of the pound is a reflection of the confidence of the markets in the UK economy in both the short and long term. The referendum result immediately created a period of selling sterling and it's now trading at a lower level and is showing no immediate signs of returning to its former levels. However, the low productivity of the UK economy is also a factor in the markets. If you're telling me that investment in the UK economy either from home grown resources or inward foreign investment is likely to increase after we leave then I'm going to disagree with you. Given the glee that some seem to have for a hard Brexit, any foreign investor looking to gain access to the European market by manufacturing in the UK is going to look elsewhere.

I'm fed up with things that I've been told by leavers that one by one have proved untrue. To quote a few notorious examples. David Davies saying that the deal to leave the EU would be one of the easiest we have ever undertaken. Only to be followed a few months later by, this is more complex than a lunar landing. Or how about Liam Fox, on day one after the referendum we will be going to Berlin not Brussels to get a deal, suggesting that individual countries would want to do deals over the EU's head. That, of course, has turned out to be bullshit. And of course we still have John Redwood with his, German car manufacturers will force Angela Merkel to do a deal. This week the German equivalent of the CBI set up a task force to plan for the UK leaving with no deal. Does that sound like they're desperate to do a deal ?
 
The Leave leaders do seem to be an absolute shower, don't they -aside from the merits of leaving or staying. Very disappointed with Boris. Not seeing any sort of core or focus behind the cavalier exterior -not even a ruthless cynical one. They really did not expect to win.
 
It may have helped the situation if a Brexit leader had been elected because May was and still is a Remainer.

The government of the day did nothing in advance because they were so confident of victory bearing in mind the polls were showing 60/40 remain.

In defeat and humiliation, they jumped ship and left a void that had to be filled.
May was seen as the best of a bad bunch but she does seem well out of her depth.

I think it best that they call off this farce of a negotiation and the EU has shown absolutely no interest in negotiating anything.
They have laid down their terms, take it or leave it.

Both side should now get the preparations ready for when the UK leave in March 2019.

If the EU want full customs checks at Dover then so be it, but the trucks will have to queue the other side of the channel to come in.
We may have no oranges or fresh flowers but they will have no industry.
Having been in business for many, many years, I can tell you that it is a lot easier to find suppliers than customers.
 
The EU can do without us at a pinch, ie Mercedes sells more cars to China, but we can't do without the EU. Look what the US government has done with Bombardier - 280% tax on plane parts built in Northern Ireland and we want to conclude trade deals with the USA? Liam Fox a rabid Brexiteer is adamant that we're fucked without a transitional deal with the EU and anyone with any common sense would understand that.
 
The biggest trade problem facing all our European economies, over the next decade or two will be the enormous power of US internet companies such as Amazon, Google and Facebook, These companies have only been paying a fraction of the taxes they should and it's not a level playing field. I believe the EU is fining Amazon a couple of hundred million - a start. Of course the UK will have far less clout with these giant companies now that we're leaving the EU.

The ironic thing is that far from taking back control we'll be losing it as these giant companies start to dominate our lives.' Alexa. find a way of paying less tax'..........

Europe needs another Jean-Jacques Servan-Schreiber.
 
Arthurly, you've absolutely put your finger on it. Like it or not we live in a world of large corporations. Countries have tended to come together in collaborations largely as a response to the operation of large companies that transcend national boundaries. Unless you think large companies are going to decline, then the UK going in the opposite direction is simply swimming against the tide of history.
 
So, May's plan is to put 2bn in a pot to build affordable homes; plus, she's going to oversee it personally. That works out at about 8 houses per year per local authority when hundreds of thousands are needed. On R4 to-day, Heseltine said she needs to appoint a housing czar because she's fully occupied with Brexit and Cabinet/Tory Party in-fighting. She needs to remove the shackles from local authorities to allow them to borrow on the open market to invest in housing with payback from renting/selling the houses, ie bash the Treasury; she needs to bang the collective heads together of the various ministries so land is released to local housing and they don't interfere with the house-building programme and, this time, when public housing is sold the money should go back to the local authorities. Under Thatcher, the great council house sell off money evaporated (Heseltine's words) instead of going to the councils. Eight affordable homes in Medway each year? That'll do the trick.
 
Thought Heseltine talked a lot of sense in that interview. His ideas wont see the light of day, unfortunately, as apparently it's rampant failed nanny state stuff and we will leave it to the market to continue failing the young.
 
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