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tomytony said:
I'm surprised anyone can hear Morgan though.
He's so far up Buttler's *rse that he can see his teeth.

Maybe, after such a disastrous campaign, both as leader and batsman- and we all know he can't play proper cricket- they might led him go and fester in the various forms of franchise cricket around the world.
That is , of course, unless Morgan carries on his one man campaign to bull him up whenever he spouts his blarney.

What a drop off in form and application he's overseen - wonder it it's owt to do with the togetherness of the team? The lack of hope? The despair?
Never seen such collective and spectacular decline- there's got to be behind the scenes issues- and , subsequently, heads rolling- Key,(not that he'll sack himself) Mott and Buttler would be my 3 targets.


BTW - when him and Stokes were at the wicket together today a poster on the YCCC forum wondered how "the 2 tactical genuises of England cricket" would sort out the mess.
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Did you notice as they walked off Stokes was taking the piss out of him for missing the stumping at the first attempt
 
tomytony said:
I'm surprised anyone can hear Morgan though.
He's so far up Buttler's *rse that he can see his teeth.

Maybe, after such a disastrous campaign, both as leader and batsman- and we all know he can't play proper cricket- they might led him go and fester in the various forms of franchise cricket around the world.
That is , of course, unless Morgan carries on his one man campaign to bull him up whenever he spouts his blarney.

What a drop off in form and application he's overseen - wonder it it's owt to do with the togetherness of the team? The lack of hope? The despair?
Never seen such collective and spectacular decline- there's got to be behind the scenes issues- and , subsequently, heads rolling- Key,(not that he'll sack himself) Mott and Buttler would be my 3 targets.


BTW - when him and Stokes were at the wicket together today a poster on the YCCC forum wondered how "the 2 tactical genuises of England cricket" would sort out the mess.
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It's all a bit of a conundrum. On the one hand they collectively look haunted, gaunt and fearful, none more so than Jos Buttler. I'm sure some of them are taking the pitch expecting and waiting to fail again personally and as a team. But then despite the way they look, they don't seem to be hurting enough for me when things do go wrong with the bat, ball or in the field. 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
Grayblade said:
It's all a bit of a conundrum. On the one hand they collectively look haunted, gaunt and fearful, none more so than Jos Buttler. I'm sure some of them are taking the pitch expecting and waiting to fail again personally and as a team. But then despite the way they look, they don't seem to be hurting enough for me when things do go wrong with the bat, ball or in the field. 🤷🏻‍♂️
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Bringing Stokes back because he wanted to play- although only for this tounament- was a big mistake and set a poor tone and example.
It showed contempt for the rest, particularly the younger lads trying to make their way and even got to Joe in the end as he played his ramp shot and got out ( although, those who said it was careless/reckless and symptomatic of the squad's approach should watch again as the bowler deserves a lot of credit. At that pace-slower than the others Joe normally puts over the boundary- he had time to adjust and altered his line spearing it in at Joe's legs to get him out for the 1st time to that shot.)
I think they thought they'd only to turn up to progress and , after a couple of defeats, the malaise had set in, it was hard to turn the ship round and, from many rumours, it seems that Buttler split the dressing room with his own lack of application, baffling leadership and sloppy standards.
In interview etc he's hardly dynamic,enthused or gung ho- in fact he seems to have little, if any, get up and go and that, translated into leading and directing a squad does not play well.
As many will know, I've never been a big fan of Buttler's - whilst some see him as a match winner and wonderkid- and I looked at his stats yesterday compared to Joe's and I know who I'd want in my team - and they show the real truth.

Buttler 177 matches 4934 runs Avge 39.79
Joe 170 games 6462 runs Avge 47.51. Joe also has 27 wickets- which could well be less than chances Buttler has missed!

So, in more games, he's scored 1500 odd less runs than Joe - and yet he's seen as the one day specialist the ultimate ODI player and revered for it.
He also wants to stay on as captain!

www.espn.co.uk

Buttler wants to lead England in the tour of Caribbean

He concedes he was "very frustrated" with his own form and hopes to "lead from the front" by making more runs going forward | ESPN.co.uk
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Typical we just did enough to qualify for the next one so it’s carry on regardless they’d have had to change if we hadn’t qualified …… wouldn’t they 🤔

Are we home yet ?
 
Bulmer1889 said:
Typical we just did enough to qualify for the next one so it’s carry on regardless they’d have had to change if we hadn’t qualified …… wouldn’t they 🤔

Are we home yet ?
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Key has backed Buttler as captain of the one day outfits, rested, Joe,Jonny and Mark Wood, kicked out top scorer Malan and brought in some new names- John Turner??.
It's all a whitewash as many are rested for the proper cricket and others picked not part of the 29 centrally contracted players chosen only 2 weeks ago.
Is 29 not enough? Did he pick the wrong 29? Why have outsiders when you've alreaday settled on the squad to take you forward?
In other words it looks tough, decisive and Draconian but it's muddled and flabby thinking- which, is basically what Key is!
www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk

England name new-look squads for West Indies on back of World Cup

Less than 12 hours after exiting the World Cup, England named new-look squads for next month’s white-ball tour of the West Indies with an emphasis on rest, rotation and renewal.
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www.bbc.co.uk

Cricket World Cup 2023: Rob Key's Test focus reason for England failure in India

Rob Key said he should be blamed "more than anyone" for England's failure at the World Cup because he prioritised Test matches over the 50-over format.
www.bbc.co.uk

Key admits it's his fault -a quote from the article-

"'We needed local knowledge to inform us about Mumbai heat"

When you're starting from such a low base it's a long way to the top!

FFS.The more he opens his mouth the dafter he looks

1st time an England squad's travelled to India???
 
tomytony said:
www.bbc.co.uk

Cricket World Cup 2023: Rob Key's Test focus reason for England failure in India

Rob Key said he should be blamed "more than anyone" for England's failure at the World Cup because he prioritised Test matches over the 50-over format.
www.bbc.co.uk

Key admits it's his fault -a quote from the article-

"'We needed local knowledge to inform us about Mumbai heat"

When you're starting from such a low base it's a long way to the top!

FFS.The more he opens his mouth the dafter he looks

1st time an England squad's travelled to India???
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But we didn’t regain the ashes either cos we concentrated on other things 🤷‍♂️
so is he saying it’s hot in India ? Well who knew 😳
 
Just put the final on and watching India v Australia is akin to watching the pigs and scum play in a cup/playoff final wondering if it’s possible for them to somehow both lose 🤔
 
Just like the Germans at footy no matter how bad the Aussies have been inbetween they always turn up for the latter stages of the big tournaments
India’s bowlers are gonna have to pull some rabbits out of the hat
 
Bulmer1889 said:
Just like the Germans at footy no matter how bad the Aussies have been inbetween they always turn up for the latter stages of the big tournaments
India’s bowlers are gonna have to pull some rabbits out of the hat
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The Germans dint in 1966 at wembley tho the gits.😊Aussies need 241 to win.UTB
 
Aussies strolled it in the end mainly thanks to Travis Head and Marcus Labuschagne head fell 2 shy of the target he deserved to be there at the end both played great innings
 
Bulmer1889 said:
Aussies strolled it in the end mainly thanks to Travis Head and Marcus Labuschagne head fell 2 shy of the target he deserved to be there at the end both played great innings
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Yeah as much as i don't like the Aussies they were far superior today.India were big favrits accordin to the piggy ex England skipper Vaughan,a bit like they think the grunters are every time we play em.:giggle: UTB
 
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