Strett
Vital Football Hero
Tell Dave to try Bitterballen as well
I’ve had a bad dose of that after a night on Amstel!
Here we go!
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I’ve had a bad dose of that after a night on Amstel!
radfordinlondon
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-55617849
Interesting early news, sounds suspiciously like what remainers predicted. Lots of old folk coming home home, lots of young people going out. And of course, plenty of people left high and dry.
Interesting early news, sounds suspiciously like what remainers predicted. Lots of old folk coming home home, lots of young people going out. And of course, plenty of people left high and dry.
Strett
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Be interesting to see how this plays out. As far as I'm aware, individual member states can come to their own residency arrangements.
I believe Portugal already have drawn up arrangements with the UK. They were talking about special UK passport holder lines at airports (to help Brits from suffering delays); health passports (to make up for the loss of the European Health Insurance Cards) and the waiving of any visa requirements.
I know France are looking at aligning the visa-free visitor stay period with the UK (6 months up from 3).
I suppose there are bigger fish (pardon the pun) to fry ATM, along with no chuffer traveling.
Just to clarify the EHIC cards haven't been lost. They are still valid until they expire , and as far as I can see you can still apply for a new one when your old one expires. Not studied the details, but the new card is a Global HIC (GHIC) .
Similarly Erasmus is being replaced with a global studying scheme. Government says 35,000 places, but again got no idea if that will be staggered (eg 12,000 per year on say 3 year courses) .
Strett
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"We've shut ourselves out of the EU procurement scheme for reasons of petty Brexit ideology and racist, xenophobic posturing", they said.
"We won't have their bulk-buying power and will miss out on vaccine stocks. Pathetic little Englunders putting lives at risk", they said...
Bit in press about Germany breaking ranks and buying extra vaccine stock but where has Italy got all their stock from? EU insisted on buying millions of euro’s worth of vaccine from Sanofi, a French company. Today Sanofi is buying a small Cambridgeshire company specialising in immunology genetics. If we were to do that shouts about a level playing field would be heard.
Bremen Tree
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Isn't it a bit early to be seeing swallows
The problem is not the vaccine but those that are injecting it ... there arent enough, and lets face it the UK had a couple of weeks of a head start so by now they have sorted any teething problems .... lets wait for another month or so and then we will look at the figures...
Strett
Vital Football Hero
Has Germany broken the rules in a specific and limited way?
And the UK had a couple of weeks start because we didn't join the EU scheme !
France and Germany break the rules in lots of ways, but of course a level playing field only works one way. In a proper level playing field we wouldn't be allowing imports from any country not implementing the UK minimum wage. We are down in 14th place in the breaking the rules list.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ore-eu-rules-worst-bottom-class-a8198271.html
As i mentioned some time ago Scotland have fucking thousands. What a job opportunity.
in_the_top_one
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It's all here. Schroedinger's EU again.
"We could only do it because we left" (demonstrably not true).
"Italy and Germany are doing it too" so they must have broken the rules. (More proof that it was perfectly possible. They have not broken any rules because leavers have fabricated them to post hoc justify their bad decision).
"We could only do it because we left" (demonstrably not true).
"Italy and Germany are doing it too" so they must have broken the rules. (More proof that it was perfectly possible. They have not broken any rules because leavers have fabricated them to post hoc justify their bad decision).
Strett
Vital Football Hero
Erm,
Germany has come in for criticism over a bilateral vaccine deal with Pfizer/BioNtech to secure an extra 30 million doses of its vaccine at a time when talks between Brussels and the pharma firms were still ongoing.
Berlin ordered the extra doses of the vaccine back in September at a time when it was trumpeting the virtues of a common EU purchasing strategy during its role as rotating president of the European Union.
German Health Minister Jens Spahn confirmed last week that he had purchased an extra 30 million doses of the vaccine in a separate bilateral agreement with the company.
The terms of the EU’s vaccine strategy, published in June, state that the 27 member states agree “not to launch their own procedures for advance purchase of that vaccine with the same manufacturers.”
We have been through this one before. LEGALLY they could all do what they wanted, but my understanding is that they agreed to buy it en bloc (which probably is a good decision) but then under their "stick together" ideology had it approved en bloc , and almost criminally all agreed to start vaccinating on the same day (except a couple of places jumped the gun). Also ordered months late as discussed previously too.
I don't believe that this area of health was even under the EU remit, but could be wrong on that. From the Telegraph
German Health Minister Jens Spahn confirmed last week that he had purchased an extra 30 million doses of the vaccine in a separate bilateral agreement with the company.
The terms of the EU’s vaccine strategy, published in June, state that the 27 member states agree “not to launch their own procedures for advance purchase of that vaccine with the same manufacturers.”
The pact was supposed to be an act of solidarity towards smaller members with weaker purchasing power.
The European Commission on Friday avoided being drawn on whether Germany had breached the terms of the agreement, with a spokesman asking reporters to address the question to German authorities.
However, Commission president Ursula von der Leyen said that the member states had agreed that “there will be no parallel negotiations or parallel contracts.”
SNAP !
Strett
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As a newly converted champion of the democratic result to leave the EU I, can't in all honesty, criticise a country for doing its primary job which is to protect its own citizens; since the only alternative was to wait for a non-existent foreign vaccine that was bought purely to play politics.
It's probably the very same reason I believe that the Maltese shouldn't have a say in the production of snowmobiles in Sweden; or the Austrians telling the Greeks how to fish, or the Dutch telling the Italians how to make olive oil or the French telling everybody how to do pretty much everything, or they'll strike.
That said, one can't help but wryly smile at the schadenfreude (thanks Germany) of the EU demonstrating once more why it is a questionable idea to shove nation states with different cultures, laws and histories together and expect/demand acquiescent assimilation.
It's probably the very same reason I believe that the Maltese shouldn't have a say in the production of snowmobiles in Sweden; or the Austrians telling the Greeks how to fish, or the Dutch telling the Italians how to make olive oil or the French telling everybody how to do pretty much everything, or they'll strike.
That said, one can't help but wryly smile at the schadenfreude (thanks Germany) of the EU demonstrating once more why it is a questionable idea to shove nation states with different cultures, laws and histories together and expect/demand acquiescent assimilation.
