Wrexham v Forest Match Thread, sponsored by Donald Trump’s Empire plans.

Ahhh that’s right, me being unhappy about losing 5 out of 6, including to a championship team whilst playing the worst football since Hughton means I must want Dyche to win trophies…

I mean, I was never Cooper out, I was never Nuno out, but yeah I’m just so damn unreasonable to expect the club I watched occupy 3rd for most of last season to not play like an utter basket case week to week.
Yes, you are being unreasonable

The last 25 years should have been enough to teach you that last season was the exception, not the norm.

Yes, we could push on, and we still can. We can with this manager, but we may not. And if we don't, you can bet we will try someone else.

But having four managers in a season is the most monumentally fucking stupid thing anyone on this forum has ever suggested in it's history. I wonder if you have actually stepped back and considered how staggering ludicrious it would be to do that and expect us to survive?

We would fucking deserve to go down. We would deserve to go down two divisions with that.

The time for the manager's future conversation is in late May/Early June. Every point is 100% valid there. Had we had that discussion after 6 months of Nuno, I would have been ambivalent about losing him

It is not remotely a valid conversation right now. In the last 5 games we have lost three on the pitch, lost one on penalties and won the one that absolutely needed winning. We were great against Man City, shite at Villa and Everton, evens at Fulham but not good enough to be better than that.


What’s ridiculous about you is you won’t hear a bad word about Dyche. Your unhinged rants about Jesus but NOTHING about the head coach that is making all of our players look shite. It’s like you think he’s doing an unbelievable job.
I'll hear lots of bad words about Dyche. His subs are all at half time or not at all, his refusal to make subs at key times of the second half costs us.

We aren't good enough yet when losing and facing a low block. Not his fault- we were no better under Nuno

But we are conceding first too much. Again, we started doing that under Nuno but it's up to Dyche now to find a solution.

We have no pace, Jesus isn't getting better and that's coaching, we aren't winning enough duels and certainly not enough headers.

We win more when we play well and have more intensity, but that isn't all the time.

Not enough of them go forward and not enough of them commit or just put it in the box. We were actually very good in some moves last night; against a mid-low block that was actually a good 2nd half and ET attacking performance for the most part.

Four different managers have failed to get MGW to shoot well, and three have failed with Anderson. That is frustrating and is Dyche's job now.

I fear we may see Dominguez on the wing again and I'd have that as an automatic sacking offence.

But I do think there is a very good chance he will keep us up, and that will certainly be the case it we can sign a reasonably competent goalscorer- even someone who comes in and gets 5-8 in the second half of the season will make a huge difference.

In that sense, the time for that discussion is May/June, categorically not now. The very last thing we need is random foreigner who has been sacked at Olympiacos, or done ok in Brazil, neither of whom have the first clue about the Premier League and neither have any time to instill what is needed on the players. It would be a catastrophe.
You are being uncharacteristically unbalanced in your defence of Dyche. It’s very unlike you.
Erm...
 
Why should we listen to you given that you think its better for us to win 0 games and be in the relegation zone than winning some games and not being in the relegation zone?
If you fundamentally differ from other fans in that you want to be relegated, maybe you aren't the best person to decide the future of the club.
Prove this.
Still waiting chap.
 
Just seen that. Verified, of course?

51 followers in 15 years

He's a Forest fan, so not sure what his "in" at Everton is

Have you looked at his previous posts? You didn't, did you?

You would be embarrassed to post this if you had
AI check here…

The quotes from Garner and Onana are based on genuine statements from interviews, though slightly paraphrased. Garner's full quote: “The last few seasons, I’ve not really had the licence to show my qualities.” Onana's: "Sean Dyche wanted to see more direct football. Long balls." Gray's doesn't match verified sources; he said it's hard to play for someone who doesn't respect you.

Seems mostly genuine.

Tip chap: check before posting 👍🏻
 
What was I saying?
Okay, this is from the Wolves match thread:
They weren't the better side then, because if they were they wouldn't be trailing!

This football snobbery is boring and tiresome. Football is primarily about getting results. If you are winning/have won you are, by definition the better side.

This narrative has exploded since Barcelona had their renaissance and it's bollocks.

You then go on to say in this very thread that Dyche is worse than Ange.

Given that football is primarily about getting results, I can assume that you'd rather have Ange's results than Dyche's. Now you're denying this.

If you're going to contradict yourself best not do it in writing because anyone can go find it.

See, its easy to play at being a silly twat on a forum, but its pointless.
 
Okay, this is from the Wolves match thread:


You then go on to say in this very thread that Dyche is worse than Ange.

Given that football is primarily about getting results, I can assume that you'd rather have Ange's results than Dyche's. Now you're denying this.

If you're going to contradict yourself best not do it in writing because anyone can go find it.

See, its easy to play at being a silly twat on a forum, but its pointless.
That was over a year ago, when we had Nuno.
Are you a bit simple?
Come at me son, you’d better be tooled up.
 
Good question.
Do you verify all the links you post?
Can you remember me sharing made up quotes about one of our managers?

If I've ever done that then I am sure I verified it.

When I post rumours, I will usually check the journalist or site to see if it's one man and his dog or not- and if it is, I will usually say that I don't know if it's good or not.
 
Your post was about my opinion about Dyche and Ange.
When challenged you’ve searched for something to back up your false accusation.
Try harder, cupcake
I don't need to try harder at this point you are just denying what's written down.

You think football is all about results.
You think Dyche is worse than Ange.

The contradiction is fucking obvious.
 
Can you remember me sharing made up quotes about one of our managers?

If I've ever done that then I am sure I verified it.

When I post rumours, I will usually check the journalist or site to see if it's one man and his dog or not- and if it is, I will usually say that I don't know if it's good or not.
Good strategy.
I’ve since checked and it’s mostly legit.
 
AI check here…

The quotes from Garner and Onana are based on genuine statements from interviews, though slightly paraphrased. Garner's full quote: “The last few seasons, I’ve not really had the licence to show my qualities.” Onana's: "Sean Dyche wanted to see more direct football. Long balls." Gray's doesn't match verified sources; he said it's hard to play for someone who doesn't respect you.

Seems mostly genuine.

Tip chap: check before posting 👍🏻


Seems pretty typical to me. Yatesy does this same interview every time we change managers

So who do you want as the fourth manager of the season?

Should it be;

No mark ex Olympiacos manager?

Promising Brazillian coach who barely speaks the language and cant name all the Premier League clubs?

Graham Potter?

Steven Gerrard (linked before)?
 


Seems pretty typical to me. Yatesy does this same interview every time we change managers

So who do you want as the fourth manager of the season?

Should it be;

No mark ex Olympiacos manager?

Promising Brazillian coach who barely speaks the language and cant name all the Premier League clubs?

Graham Potter?

Steven Gerrard (linked before)?
I think it’s prudent to stay with Dyche, as I’ve said previously. Just don’t allow him to have influence on transfers this Jan. loans only.
Reset in the summer as we’re not getting relegated.
Dyche is a manager for putting out fires. We’re here because of the mistakes made by EM.
Let’s hope he’s learned