Would you risk your job to stand up for the weak?

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If your boss was picking on a weaker member of staff - would you go up against him and thus stand up for your colleague, even though you yourself could come under fire?
 
Yeah jobs are abundant these days, 10 a penny.

No seriously going up against the boss is stupid, they win because they are the boss, and they'll probably make your life hell because they can.

Find a smarter way to get even if you must, but to be honest, your job is your job, not sticking up for a wimp who can't fight their own battle.

 
I agree with freeman. Support the wimp/gimp.... take them for a pint after work etc. Say nowt to the boss. That is job suicide.
 
Yeah, would like to think so, never easy to just use a 'throwaway' yes because mortgages etc etc but I'm not very good at being quiet and despise bullying.

I would struggle being employed anyway, so would struggle even more if the boss was a bully. Same as teachers and lecturers, if I didn't respect them, I just didn't listen to them.
 
In my later working life, the children reared, the mortgage paid, I did go into bat against my manager when I felt he was out of order. This happened a number of times. For an educated man, he could be downright stupid. In times when there were several mouths to feed and a roof needing to be kept over our heads, I tended to bite my tongue and suck it up.
 
mike_field - 10/1/2015 23:12

Been there done that, why you think I'm now self employed.

Nothing like abusing myself :9:
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Pretty much the same here, Mike. I'm unemployable, so set up my own business. I bumped into an old boss who I last locked horns with in 1995 at a funeral on Wednesday. He couldn't even look me in the eye. He is one of the biggest bullies I've had the misfortune to meet.
 
As much as I will tackle any manager who is a bully , I expect him to deal with tossers who are taking the pizz .
Some managers pick on the young lads and let the old trouble makers get away with it .

There again I manage projects rather than supervise people , people do my head in but I won't suffer fools or bullies .

I'm a Ltd Company as well because I have a mind of my own and as others have said unemployable as I'm no sheep
 
It depends on the circumstances. There are people you can contact to help fight your case against a boss who is a bully. We all have rights it's just that some seem to be happy to suffer in silence cos they think if they speak out they will get the sack. Unions have fought they bullyboy bosses for years but sadly there will always be militants who will go too far. In the 70s the unions had all the power, they held the country to ransom and went on strike for the least little thing. Car Manufacturers, dock workers, coal and steel workers, bin men - it was one union after another getting greedy and wanting a bigger slice of the pie. Then the 80s saw the bosses take back the power and under Thatcher, the unions were squashed. There has to be a balance that protects the worker's basic rights and also gives sway to common sense management and prevents unscrupulous owners/managers from hiring and firing at will. The days of Scargill type thuggish mob rule are over. I'm a former Union rep/shop steward and have first hand knowledge of how manipulative both management and workers can be. In a previous job, the Management wanted to make redundancies and myself and the other union reps had to negotiate the numbers from what the Company said they wanted to let go and what we felt was reasonable to allow the Company to maintain output (and save jobs). We successfully negotiated a figure and saved 30 people from being laid off. I negotiated on wage increases and we got a good deal 2.5 % but the members moaned and it wouldn't have mattered if we had negotiated a new car for everyone they were always ungrateful.... until they were up in a disciplinary hearing, then you were their best mate. The best advice I can give anyone who isn't in a union is do a bit a web searching for organisations who will help you fight your case.
 
I witnessed an Officer in Her Majesties Royal Navy abusing a weaker Individual, I reported the twat for his abuse citing the fact that he had been drinking as allowing him to say what he really thought of the person he was abusing. Just so it got dealt with I sent several copies of my statement to the International Training Officer, the Commander of Training.

I was spoken to briefly by the command but it was swept under the carpet. No action was taken. But the disgrace is theirs, I did my part in raising the issue at the highest level I could, they failed the Individual and the abuser as I am sure he went on to abuse at other military establishments.

I did feel let down somewhat, but saying nothing would have made me worse.

 
I have ended up having to leave jobs for being talked down too and the fire in mar belly will not accept that, there was a big fecker at an air conditioning place i worked and he was trying it on, wanted my job cos i drove and fitted in air con units all over the country whilst he was a loader and warehouse person, anyway he was grassing me up to the gaffer for having a sausage and bacon sarnie at a cafe etc on the way to a job and so it went on until i decked the big ba**ad and just as i did low and behold the gaffer come walking out the office, he tried to after that treat me like sh*t so had a go with him and stuck the job up his arse, i have not had many nice gaffers in my life, i would say 2 out of about 10
 
I had a boss once who was the biggest bully imagineable and anyone who tries to mange like she did has got many failings. Anyway after about a year of working there she started on me so I listed all the grievancies of the other members of staff , reported her to the board and walked out. We had just had our first child back then and I had no job to go to , although I did get one pretty much straight away.

Hate bullies and will never tolerate them.
 
Always worked for myself. Found out at a young age I can't stand bosses. They are usually power crazed egotistical prats who think that they are doing you a favour employing you and you should bow down to their every whim.

My close friend I have just been talking through a similar problem. She is now 60 and had worked all her life in nursing, mainly midwifery. She came out of that 7 years ago to run down her career towards retirement. She worked as a nurse in a dementia care home. She had had enough their.

So she got a little job in her local newsagent working just 15 hours a week so she can also claim carers for her 85 year old Mom she lives with. It gets her out of the house and a break. The boss treats her (as all the staff) like a piece of sh*t.

She was going to start looking for a new job. I talked through with her what was the point?. She gets a nursing pension, has no mortgage and can manage, without working, her money. I said that when she couldn't take anymore from this boss to leave, as she generally wouldn't find bosses anywhere any different. She was in another place before this who were the same. As I said to her 'you have heard this all before from other friends about how bosses are, so the point of changing is?'

Anyway that is what she is going to do, is when enough is enough, leave and take early retirement and do a bit of voluntary work through places like 'AGE U.K' and the like, as she has a heart for helping people.

 
Most people are tw**s really aren't they, self important, bulls*******, nosey, gossiping, a***holes. Like children who never grew up, no respect for themselves so even less respect for anyone else.

Then they become the boss and their ego often goes into orbit on top. If you've got a good/sound boss, you are a lucky person.

I find it's best to not put your job on the line to challenge their inadequacies though, do something that they won't even know who did it, at a time when you will not even be a suspect. That's the real satisfying way to deal with c***s imo.
 
Are you going to give us anymore info Green Tea dude? It's a pretty abstract question, with a hundred factors missing that are really needed to paint a clearer picture and to be able to give better answers.
 
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