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Winners and Losers in a New World Order

The Grauniad seems to be excelling in these articles taking a broadly socialist line on society and the EU. They are high on speculation, low on facts, unless its the kind of facts that were glaringly obvious to their correspondents weeks before anyone knew what they were looking at. It sells papers I suppose.

I think in the UK in 24 months time, we'll have rediscovered that we can rely on ourselves, be friendly with other nations, but stop looking to others to tell us what to do and how to live. There is an old saying about a 'friend in need', and we can now see how that works with nations, can't we..? If we are going to do well in a post-C19/post-Brexit world we must shed this submissive view of ourselves and become the European Tiger Economy. Still there are a substantial number who are still fighting the EU cause, like we can only survive attached to the Brussels teat.

I know a lot of the writing is towards a 'new, more fairer society' (you know, like Catweasle and his Amazing Fantasist Tramps were suggesting). IMO The way for poor people not to be poor people is education and opportunity but they must have a desire to 'improve ones lot'. It isn't the Labour solution of borrowing furiously and giving it away as free money to people who can't get off their arses and work for their future. People who would rather rely on the state to pick up the tab for their lives, and who's only objective appears to be to have more snotty nosed kids and that we will fund their entire lives too, while whinging about how hard done to they are.
 
A lot depends on how quickly we come out of this massive blip. Will the sense of entitlement lessen or increase? Currently there are so many who are being 'missed out' and feel aggrieved about it, many rightly so, but that was always going to happen when economic policy is being made on the hoof. For how long afterwards will so many still want to rely on the state? How long will the state go on funding?

I reckon there will be a few hard decisions to be made and many will feel hard done to by them and many more (hopefully) will buckle down and get on with and we can then start to motor.

Free of Europe, possibly a bit more insular for a while but with the world at our feet as a nation.The situation , not by choice, obviously, but nevertheless it is what it is, gives us a chance to wipe the slate clean, to drive forward and live up to the GREAT bit of our country's name.

The NHS was always going to be protected,invested in, regardless of Labour's daily tactical mantra over the years. It's importance will now be recognised and there will be an uplift in wages for the 'shop floor' staff and rightly so. We might even see a new way of funding the NHS.

I also think we have a PM in Boris who has the vision and the attitude that gets things done and he will lead from the front and get on with it. Yes, it will look good on him in hindsight but that shouldn't prejudice us from getting behind a charismatic get it done leader.

Society might level up a bit but , like it or lump it, the world needs entrepreneurs, risk takers who might well go on to become millionaires but, rather than despise them, they should be lauded as they are the ones that can drive this forward and. free of the shackles of the ever bickering,unbalanced , crumbling, undemocratic EU, enterprise could find it's feet and see us as THE nation in Europe.

Not everything will stay the same but those thinking we are going to see a big state interference in the UK economy with a nanny state for all will be disappointed.
 
The 'bankers' behaviour will play a large part in the aftermath of this pandemic .....
carry on regardless and financial disaster is my prediction, small businesses dropping like flies, collapse in house prices etc.
The sooner big business behaves the better in my book.
Oh look .... a pig flying !
 
The thing is, there’s a lot of people who have have little or any disruption to their finances. There’s a lot of people who can’t spend their money. It hasn’t just disappeared. For sure there will be a downturn but I doubt it’s going to be disastrous as some would have us believe.
 
There’s no doubt it’s affected many and like you say some it hasn’t at all I’m one of the lucky latter but the rest have my sympathy
 
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There’s an old saying in business that “well managed firms don’t fail” and by and large that is true. They hoard cash in the good times, to see them through the bad. They don’t over-stretch themselves and the owners don’t take out more than is necessary. As another old saying goes (and this is obviously true) “you don’t go bust because you make a loss, you go bust because you run out of money”.
Even with zero interest rates, cash is still king.
But these are not normal times.
All governments have been faced with a situation they have never met before. To be fair to them, they have attempted to address the money issue with QE of unprecedented levels. Unfortunately, one of their usual weapons is now unusable. Interest rates are already practically nil. In classical economic theory, this should lead to rampant inflation. Will it this time - certainly not in the short term - but in the long term, who knows? I don’t and neither does any one else.
No one knows how this will all pan out - but whether you are invested in the stock market or not, hang onto your hats - we are in for a roller-coaster of a ride. Just hope that it doesn’t come off the tracks and we all crash down to earth with an almighty bang. Fingers crossed everyone. Stay safe!
 
Business's should do what Black Bears do and hibernate for a few months,then awaken refreshed for the new challenge.

We’d be in a right mess they did CBB. No food at all in the shops, nobody making all the stuff the NHS needs. The extra beds the NHS needs cannot be plucked from the ether. Someone has to make them, with various components produced by several other businesses, etc., etc.
And, while NHS staff are rightly getting praised for their bravery and dedication, I’d like to do a shout out for those much maligned workers, the lorry drivers and van drivers (I am not one by the way). Without their efforts, most of us would find it very difficult to survive at all - virus or no virus.
 
Business's should do what Black Bears do and hibernate for a few months,then awaken refreshed for the new challenge.
Problem is different animals in different counries hibernate at different times of the year.

With what's going on everything's in hibernation at the same time CBB- but some will wake up sooner than others and, for a few, it might be The Big Sleep
 
Problem is different animals in different counries hibernate at different times of the year.

With what's going on everything's in hibernation at the same time CBB- but some will wake up sooner than others and, for a few, it might be The Big Sleep

Just thinking an alternative to them going bust,which i keep hearing alot about.
 
We’d be in a right mess they did CBB. No food at all in the shops, nobody making all the stuff the NHS needs. The extra beds the NHS needs cannot be plucked from the ether. Someone has to make them, with various components produced by several other businesses, etc., etc.
And, while NHS staff are rightly getting praised for their bravery and dedication, I’d like to do a shout out for those much maligned workers, the lorry drivers and van drivers (I am not one by the way). Without their efforts, most of us would find it very difficult to survive at all - virus or no virus.
No no you are misinterpreting what i am saying,i dont mean ALL,i mean those that are not functioning at all,them that are near to going bust,just batten down the hatches and hibernate,minimising all cost's,and then restart when there is a market for them to sell too.
Surely they dont have to fold,if they do fold,i am pretty sure there will be someone else to pick up the place they leave.
 
Not soon enough...
all that world order crap for gods sake ,in fact theres no god ,so for petes sake, what aload of bull poo . was living in the 50 60 s any good. in fact id love the 70s to return . technology as crippled the world its a lazy fuckin world na. nobody even thinks foe their selfs any more. its been great really being confined to stopping in,shielded from the rat race million mile an hour terrible world. id love it to be like this for ever. just a few changes.
1 able to have friends round
2 football back on

thats me sorted
 
Just thinking an alternative to them going bust,which i keep hearing alot about.
As I said in my earlier post I think some, hopefully many, will be raring to go and go on to great things but there will inevitably be some casualties eg as we've seen with hospitality many are one man (or woman) single unit businesses and the relative ease with which they have been set up , the massive choice we have of cafes, diners, bars, restaurants (not particularly pubs) could well be curtailed as 1) there will be less demand as some habits may change and 2) it will not bo so lucrative or attractive to take the risk which was relatively small when many , many more had comfortable levels of dispoable income which might not be so prevalent in the immediate future