Windows 10

daleks.at.the.monaco · Sep 11, 2025

What are folk doing about MS withdrawing support in October 2025.

That is if you are still using Win 10

jocklatic · Sep 11, 2025

daleks.at.the.monaco said:
What are folk doing about MS withdrawing support in October 2025.

That is if you are still using Win 10

I changed to Everest Doubling glazing years ago....draft proof, energy saving & environmentally friendly....can't get WiFi tho

moonay · Sep 11, 2025

Download 11 ... and if your device can't take it, get a new one!

jocklatic · Sep 11, 2025

moonay said:
Download 11 ... and if your device can't take it, get a new one!

Is that like triple glazing

daleks.at.the.monaco · Sep 12, 2025

Money bags

daleks.at.the.monaco · Sep 12, 2025

OK jokers
Anyone done a Linux conversion?

moonay · Sep 12, 2025

daleks.at.the.monaco said:
OK jokers
Anyone done a Linux conversion?

Now who's the joker ! I downloaded a driver for my touchpad, and thought I was Bill Gates !

Are you Sheldon from Big Bang theory ? :hmmm:

OnLoanfromEnfield · Sep 26, 2025

moonay said:
Download 11 ... and if your device can't take it, get a new one!

Don't listen to this technophobe.

Even if your machine doesn't support Windows 11, there is a good chance it will still run Windows 11.
Windows 11 is awful in lots of areas and 10 is still much better.

There are lots of articles for non TPM 2.0 upgrades out there ...like this one.

How to upgrade your 'incompatible' Windows 10 PC to Windows 11 - for free - ZDNET

Microsoft really doesn't want customers to upgrade older PCs to Windows 11, but there are workarounds for all but the oldest devices. Extended security updates for Windows 10 will stop in just a few months, so it's time to plan your exit strategy.

www.zdnet.com

You can also get the 1 years updates from Microsoft themselves.
Free (restrictions) or 1 year for 30 dollars
Noted here (and lots of other sites too)

You Can Still Get Windows 10 Security Updates for Free. Here's the Trick

Windows 10 support ended back in October. Here's how to keep access to Windows 10 security updates without spending a dime.

www.cnet.com

Microsoft makes classic U-turn and offers Windows 10 security updates as truly free – but not for everyone

PC settings sync catch has been removed - in Europe

www.techradar.com

This company also offers micropatches

Better Security Patches

Tiny reboot-less security patches for critical vulnerabilities in Windows, Microsoft Office, and other Windows products

0patch.com

https://0patch.com/pricing.html (also has a free option)

If you are looking at Linux .... Linux Mint is really easy to use and install.
Libreoffice, Firefox + ublock origin extensions or Brave browser + VLC + firewall enabled.
Tons of applications that you can install and update fairly easily.

I also use debian and ubuntu.
Manjaro is ok but I prefer mint or debian
Mint was the easiest to install and deploy.
If you can , bung it on an old PC to try it first.
If your PC has 16gb of memory or more ... try installing a linux OS as a virtual machine using Oracle's virtualbox

Oracle VirtualBox

www.virtualbox.org

daleks.at.the.monaco · Sep 26, 2025

OnLoanfromEnfield said:
Don't listen to this technophobe.

Even if your machine doesn't support Windows 11, there is a good chance it will still run Windows 11.
Windows 11 is awful in lots of areas and 10 is still much better.

There are lots of articles for non TPM 2.0 upgrades out there ...like this one.

How to upgrade your 'incompatible' Windows 10 PC to Windows 11 - for free - ZDNET

Microsoft really doesn't want customers to upgrade older PCs to Windows 11, but there are workarounds for all but the oldest devices. Extended security updates for Windows 10 will stop in just a few months, so it's time to plan your exit strategy.

www.zdnet.com

You can also get the 1 years updates from Microsoft themselves.
Free (restrictions) or 1 year for 30 dollars
Noted here (and lots of other sites too)

You Can Still Get Windows 10 Security Updates for Free. Here's the Trick

Windows 10 support ended back in October. Here's how to keep access to Windows 10 security updates without spending a dime.

www.cnet.com

Microsoft makes classic U-turn and offers Windows 10 security updates as truly free – but not for everyone

PC settings sync catch has been removed - in Europe

www.techradar.com

This company also offers micropatches

Better Security Patches

Tiny reboot-less security patches for critical vulnerabilities in Windows, Microsoft Office, and other Windows products

0patch.com

https://0patch.com/pricing.html (also has a free option)

If you are looking at Linux .... Linux Mint is really easy to use and install.
Libreoffice, Firefox + ublock origin extensions or Brave browser + VLC + firewall enabled.
Tons of applications that you can install and update fairly easily.

I also use debian and ubuntu.
Manjaro is ok but I prefer mint or debian
Mint was the easiest to install and deploy.
If you can , bung it on an old PC to try it first.
If your PC has 16gb of memory or more ... try installing a linux OS as a virtual machine using Oracle's virtualbox

Oracle VirtualBox

www.virtualbox.org

Thanks

I saw the ZD Net article, it gave me food for thought.

I had thought that I would go the 0patch route.

Just a matter of weighing up the time to do the ZDNet stuff compared to the cost of 0patch.
I still need MS compatibility because of a few 3rd party programmes I need to use.

OnLoanfromEnfield · Sep 26, 2025

Linux can run windows apps with Wine.

Run Windows Apps On Linux - Top 6 Methods for All in 2026

Learn how to run Windows apps on Linux using Wine, Bottles, Virtual Machines, CrossOver, and other methods. Find the best solution for your needs.

cyberpanel.net

You could also run a Virtual Machine (VM) on linux with windows 10 as a guest OS. You could convert your current windows 10 setup to a VM.

More memory and a decent SSD can improve your current device to run VMs

There are a few options.

Windows 11 is full of bloat and you have to strip out the cr*p out ... plenty of free apps to do that as well.

GitHub - Raphire/Win11Debloat: A simple, lightweight PowerShell script that allows you to remove pre-installed apps, disable telemetry, as well as perform various other changes to declutter and customize your Windows experience. Win11Debloat works fo

A simple, lightweight PowerShell script that allows you to remove pre-installed apps, disable telemetry, as well as perform various other changes to declutter and customize your Windows experience....

github.com

Also ... there are quite a few 2nd hand cheap ex corporate PCs being sold on ebay that will run windows 11.
Mini PCs are also getting cheaper too.

daleks.at.the.monaco · Sep 27, 2025

Thanks once again.
It is a crappy cheap laptop and was not rapid when I bought it in 2016.
I bought it for a job I was doing (travelling to different locations and not allowed to use the machines at the visited organisation because of security). This requirement has been replaced by Teams.
My desktop is my main machine but I have a different limited need in the future for the laptop. The 3rd party programme is niche (is not supported on all browsers) and I do not want to risk it not running.

Think I will go 0patch for a year or so and then reevaluate. I think by then I will no longer need the laptop.