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Will the Financial cheats finally get a proper punishment?

English players already cost a premium (often a ridiculous one), can only imagine that if things don't get sorted for a reciprocal visa waiver for EU players that that will get much worse. Championship clubs will be selling squad players for £30M+.

It would possibly be good for the English game in the long run, as academy players will be given more chances to make it, but in the short term it'll cause havoc. Suspect more and more dodgy tapping up of minors and loaning youth players all over the place will happen from the money clubs too.
 
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Manchester City refusing to co-operate with FFP investigation
Martyn Ziegler, Chief Sports Reporter
January 17 2019, 12:01am, The Times
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Manchester City have refused to respond to Uefa investigators over allegations that they misled financial regulators over the club’s income, on the grounds that the accusations are based on hacked emails.

Uefa’s independent Club Financial Control Body (CFCB) is investigating leaked emails which appear to show £59.5 million of sponsorship money that was supposed to come from the Etihad airline in 2015 was paid by their owners Abu Dhabi United Group (ADUG).

The CFCB approached City for their response to the allegations and emails published by Der Spiegel, the German magazine, from the Football Leaks cache of documents. The club, however, are understood to have declined to provide any explanation and instead pointed out in a written response the claims arose from internal emails which they say were “hacked or stolen”.

City did not challenge the authenticity of the emails but have previously said they were taken out of context.

Yves Leterme, the head of the CFCB and a former Belgian prime minister, said last month that City may face “the heaviest punishment” — a Champions League ban — as a result of the case if it is proved that the club provided misleading information to ensure that they complied with Financial Fair Play (FFP) rules. The regulations were established to prevent clubs spending more than they earn in pursuit of success and getting into problems.


The Times revealed last month that City executives could also face personal sanctions over the allegations.

The CFCB will now have to decide whether to open a formal case against the club or any of their officials. The body’s enforcement of FFP rules relies on clubs providing truthful information about their finances.

City were fined £48million in 2014 for spending more than the FFP rules permitted, although £32 million of that was suspended so the club ended up paying only £16 million. Senior Uefa figures believe that a second offence, especially if figures are proved to have been manipulated, would have to carry sporting sanctions.

The internal emails involved Simon Pearce, an Australian who is a director of Manchester City Ltd and special adviser to the City chairman Khaldoon Al Mubarak, and Jorge Chumillas, who was the City Football Group’s chief financial officer in 2015 and whose Linkedin profile says that he still works for the group.

One email from Chumillas to Pearce, referring to the Etihad sponsorship deal worth £67.5million annually, stated: “Please note that out of those 67.5m pounds, 8m pounds should be funded directly by Etihad and 59.5 by ADUG.”

City are furious with the EFL after it refused to put the Checkatrade Trophy match between their under-21 side and Sunderland back a week. City Under-21 face Sunderland in the quarter-finals of the competition next Tuesday, only 24 hours before the club’s first team take on Burton Albion in the semi-final of the Carabao Cup.

Given that City are almost certainly through to the final after defeating Burton, the League One club, 9-0 in the first leg, manager Pep Guardiola planned to play some under-21 players.

An EFL spokesperson said it had “a significant amount of sympathy with the position outlined by Manchester City” but that the scheduling of the match “was made after full consideration of the representations of both clubs, along with enquiries of our own.”

The spokesman added: “The EFL is committed to delivering valuable playing opportunities for young players and would have assisted, if it had been practically possible.”
 
Ban City/PSG and you will speed the process of the super league
 
Ban City/PSG and you will speed the process of the super league

The super league simply won't be able to happen without UEFA's/FIFA's ok.

Can you imagine a league where no transfers are sanctioned and players risk being banned from international football for years or playing for a licensed club again for going to non-licensed clubs?

So whilst that situation/attitude from UEFA and FIFA exists, I can't see it happening.
 
The super league simply won't be able to happen without UEFA's/FIFA's ok.

Can you imagine a league where no transfers are sanctioned and players risk being banned from international football for years or playing for a licensed club again for going to non-licensed clubs?

So whilst that situation/attitude from UEFA and FIFA exists, I can't see it happening.

Flip it round

Can you imagine a world without international breaks !!!!

Super league will be the start, internationals will follow
 
Flip it round

Can you imagine a world without international breaks !!!!

Super league will be the start, internationals will follow

hmmm, can't see it: UEFA and FIFA have international legal backing and status - so can 'enforce' their dominance.

But, never say never!
 
Always makes me wonder where football might have been now if FIFA had experienced a full on backlash to the Qatar and Russia WC corruptions. That was the time for an English led group to throw the biggest disruption into world football, by not acknowledging the so called "governing bodies" until they cleaned their act up. Starved of the English TV broadcast revenue streams, it would have turned ugly.

In that scenario, any conversation would have been game and I'm sure super leagues would have been discussed. That ship has sailed now as we didn't have the minerals to do it.
 
Always makes me wonder where football might have been now if FIFA had experienced a full on backlash to the Qatar and Russia WC corruptions. That was the time for an English led group to throw the biggest disruption into world football, by not acknowledging the so called "governing bodies" until they cleaned their act up. Starved of the English TV broadcast revenue streams, it would have turned ugly.

In that scenario, any conversation would have been game and I'm sure super leagues would have been discussed. That ship has sailed now as we didn't have the minerals to do it.


England and the FA would not have been taken seriously in the C situation. Ever.
 
Financial fair Play rules just got holed beneath the waterline;


It's now a charter for cheating and financial doping:



"Paris Saint-Germain have been heartened by the Court of Arbitration for Sport's ruling in favour of Galatasaray against UEFA and Financial Fair Play. The ruling blocks further investigation into the Turkish club's finances, with a similar appeal from PSG due to be heard in the near future. (L'Equipe). "

Manchester City will be doing cartwheels in the boardroom after this ruling....





Galatasaray scores win over UEFA in finance monitoring case
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Galatasaray players celebrated a goal against Benfica during the Europa League round of 32 soccer match between Galatasaray and Benfica, in Istanbul, Thursday, Feb. 14, 2019. (AP Photo/Lefteris Pitarakis)
NYON, Switzerland (AP) — In a legal setback for UEFA, Galatasaray has won an appeal to block a further investigation of the club’s compliance with financial monitoring rules.

The Court of Arbitration for Sport on Friday upheld Galatasaray’s challenge against a UEFA panel which wanted to open a deeper investigation of an already settled case.

It is unclear if the ruling has significance for an appeal by Paris Saint-Germain in a similar case.

PSG awaits a verdict on a procedural issue of what shapes as a prolonged legal contest with UEFA over scrutiny of the Qatar-owned club’s spending on player transfers and wages, and suspected overvalued sponsorship deals.


UEFA’s legal dispute with the French champion is a widely anticipated test of rules which have monitored European clubs’ finances for the past decade, and which sustained a rare legal defeat Friday.

“The CAS decision does not put in doubt the objectives of the UEFA Club Licensing & Financial Fair Play system,” the European soccer body said in a statement .

UEFA investigators reached an agreement with Galatasaray in June for the club to be deducted 6 million euros ($6.8 million) in prize money from European club competitions, and limit its Champions League squad this season to 21 senior players instead of 25.

Judges on UEFA’s club finance panel asked to re-open the investigation in October, provoking Galatasaray’s challenge to CAS.

CAS said in a statement UEFA judges missed a deadline to intervene. Detailed reasons for the court’s verdict were not published Friday.

UEFA said it would consider “any clarifications or amendments to its rules” required by the court verdict.

Galatasaray and PSG both played in UEFA competitions this week. The Turkish club lost 2-1 at home to Benfica in a Europa League round of 32 first leg, and PSG won 2-0 at Manchester United in the first leg of the Champions League round of 16.

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Depends on what deadlines were missed. If it was thrown out because of a technical issue it is a UEFA naff up. And the rules still apply.
 
Depends on what deadlines were missed. If it was thrown out because of a technical issue it is a UEFA naff up. And the rules still apply.

It was thrown out because of a technical issue - UEFA missed their own timing deadline as per their own rules!!

fecking muppets, or they're up to their neck in it - much talk in Turkey of bribery and corruption used to slow it all down to achieve just this outcome.

So incompetence or conspiracy?
 
It was thrown out because of a technical issue - UEFA missed their own timing deadline as per their own rules!!

fecking muppets, or they're up to their neck in it - much talk in Turkey of bribery and corruption used to slow it all down to achieve just this outcome.

So incompetence or conspiracy?
If you guys are seriously waiting for UEFA to level the sporting playing field by using financial sanctions to restore parity with the financially doped clubs...well I've some magic beans I'd like to sell.
 
If you guys are seriously waiting for UEFA to level the sporting playing field by using financial sanctions to restore parity with the financially doped clubs...well I've some magic beans I'd like to sell.


Well to some extent the rules have worked to stop more financial doping; it's the issue of past cheating/doping they haven't resolved.

The PL own FFPR have now belatedly caught up.

The issue that everyone is ducking is how/what to do to the cheats who've won stuff in the interim / bedding in period in the English PL that's ManC and Leicester - who both look like they've got away with it. In Europe, it really is all about how PSG have bent every rule in the book; which shouldn't be a surprise to anyone given who own them and the dubious practices and double standards it deals in simply by behaving the way it does.

https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...ternative-guide-champions-league-ties-last-16

the above link is well worth a read!
 
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47329293

Chelsea have been banned from signing new players in the next two transfer windows for breaching Fifa rules in relation to the international transfer and registration of players under the age of 18.

Just great news. Perhaps they will have to start using some of their stockpiled homegrown players now.



It's being reported that four other clubs are being investigated and could also suffer transfer bans.

Levy is praying we are one of them :grinning: