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Will Grigg to Sunderland

Thing is plan B has morphed into plan A by some form of osmosis driven largely by fear.

Maybe he knew all along that plan A had a shelf life with the players we had.

The successful part of our season can be boiled down to about 3 good performances but the wheels had started to squeak long before plan B kicked in.
 
hindleymonwafc said:
Thing is plan B has morphed into plan A by some form of osmosis driven largely by fear.

Maybe he knew all along that plan A had a shelf life with the players we had.

The successful part of our season can be boiled down to about 3 good performances but the wheels had started to squeak long before plan B kicked in.
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All down to that long takeover transition period. How could anyone plan anything with all that crap going on.
What a bloody anti-capitalist it has been since these lot arrived too.
 
jeffs right said:
All down to that long takeover transition period. How could anyone plan anything with all that crap going on.
What a bloody anti-capitalist it has been since these lot arrived too.
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How is it the take overs fault that Cook tells Walton to pump it long rather than try and play it out?
 
The thing about all this plan A, plan B thing is we will never know what the truth of the matter is. The only actual facts are that we had a major injury crisis in the squad, whether PC managed the situation well or not is debatable. My point is we can all put in our two pennorth about his tactics, but the one fact that is indisputable are the injuries.

What worries me more than the tactics is the fact that up to now we have made one signing and extended one contract. The takeover has been completed so there is no excuse there. I would have expected us to have at least one or two alternative left backs lined up ready to sign the moment the window opened, yet we are almost half way through the window and still without a specialist player available in that position. What the hell are the recruitment team being paid to do? We will be playing Villa today and have to play a player out of position to cover. Plan A or plan B will not matter until we have the players in position to play those roles so unless we see the injuries clear or new signings made I don't see much improvement on the horizon.
 
Martinez1986 said:
so now it's not Cooks fault glad that's cleared up

UTFT
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Some of the shit we play every week is down to Cook. Changing the way we play is down to Cook. Favourites is down to Cook.
The quality of Cooks signings are down to Cook but have been governed by the elongated takeover.
 
TS_Latics said:
Just my opinion.

For the record I think the way Cook had us playing early in the season earns him more time and we should back him as long he returns to that Plan A.

and yes - fans will always give the manager a hard time when a team are losing. But more so if they are losing only since the manager seemingly changed things and he subsequently refuses to try anything else, like... hmmmm... maybe the thing that made him successful only a few months ago?
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I would agree but how long is reasonable to wait for him to return to play A? It's been a quarter of the season we've sacrificed and been waiting. That's my issue. I liked Cook i dont like Joyce part 2.
 
TRUE BELIEVER said:
The thing about all this plan A, plan B thing is we will never know what the truth of the matter is. The only actual facts are that we had a major injury crisis in the squad, whether PC managed the situation well or not is debatable. My point is we can all put in our two pennorth about his tactics, but the one fact that is indisputable are the injuries.

What worries me more than the tactics is the fact that up to now we have made one signing and extended one contract. The takeover has been completed so there is no excuse there. I would have expected us to have at least one or two alternative left backs lined up ready to sign the moment the window opened, yet we are almost half way through the window and still without a specialist player available in that position. What the hell are the recruitment team being paid to do? We will be playing Villa today and have to play a player out of position to cover. Plan A or plan B will not matter until we have the players in position to play those roles so unless we see the injuries clear or new signings made I don't see much improvement on the horizon.
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Totally agree TB
 
Greeny978 said:
But we're not the PSG of the Championship, nor Blackburn or Derby, who have moderately priced tickets, high attendance and a great youth academy to sell future prospects. We have none of that, nor have we spent 7m cash on one player, even when in the premier league. Our only income is TV money and to buy cheap then sell high.

I'm not saying we shouldn't spend 1-3 million on players, just that they should be initially for the 'plan A' team, not 'plan B'. Backup players should be free or on the cheap, like Naismith, Gibson, Jones, Vaughan, Walker, Roberts and Mcamanaman. But to spend that much money on backup players when we have no left back and our best player is on his final year of his contract that will easily be covered by that 3 million and wages on top.

Also it looks like you're saying Marriott has done nothing, but yet he scored more than any of our players and has a higher goals per game ratio and can easily get in our 'plan A' team, while Windass and Garner can not, they're even struggling to get into our plan B team at times.
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Just as a point of interest, while we are on the subject, according to transfermarkt stats website after today Marriott has 7 goals at one every 191 mins and Garner has 4 at one every 180 mins ? one cost £7m and the other £1m.
 
Roy Race said:
Just as a point of interest, while we are on the subject, according to transfermarkt stats website after today Marriott has 7 goals at one every 191 mins and Garner has 4 at one every 180 mins ? one cost £7m and the other £1m.
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Amazing scouts our lot ;)
 
According to Sunday Mirror Sports pages, Sunderland are turning their attention to Readingks Mark McNulty after Wigan refused to sell WillGrigg
 
Zeb2 said:
According to Sunday Mirror Sports pages, Sunderland are turning their attention to Readingks Mark McNulty after Wigan refused to sell WillGrigg
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Apparently Reading desperate to offload him as the new boss has already banished a number of players to train away from the main group to try and push them out. So it will likely be a much easier deal for Sunderland to do - they'd prob get a loan.

But I do fear Cook wouldn't mind offloading Grigg if the price was right for him.
 
Zeb2 said:
Nothing to consider, they’ve gone ‘all in’....28 grand and a jar of pickled eggs......a further 500 quid in add ons if they go up and go on to win the Champions League within 5 years

.done deal
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That was rejected. They’ve now offered an extra £50 if he wins the ballon d’or and another £25 if he wins the Eurovision Song Contest with Will Griggs on Fire.
 
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