Why we should be supporting Ajax and Roma this week...

Whilst reading an article into seedings for next year's CL (getting excited again already), I did a bit of research and discovered some worrying potential news.

For anyone who is unaware, European clubs are ranked by coefficient (a number reflecting their performance in European competitions). This rank then determines your seeding in the group stage of the Champions League. It doesn't matter if you qualified directly into the group stage or via the preliminary rounds, your seeding is based on your coefficient.

Currently, Spurs are ranked 20th in Europe but, of the definitively qualified teams, we are 13th (due to teams like ars*nal not qualifying). This would make us a 2nd seed (9th-16th ranking) and mean we avoid the very tricky pot 3 - but there are a few complications.

Firstly, due to the rules that the champions from the 7 top European Leagues must be seeded first, Monaco (French champions) and Spartak Moscow (Russia), who are both ranked below Spurs, leapfrog us in the seeding, pushing us down to 15th.

This is where Ajax and Roma come in. If Ajax beat Man United to the Europa League, Ajax will qualify for the CL group stage, but are ranked below us therefore not pushing our seeding down. United are ranked above us, so a win for them would mean 16th seeding for us - the last remaining place in pot 2.

A Roma win on Sunday in their final Serie A fixture would confirm their automatic place in the CL group and they would be seeded below us. However, if Napoli better Roma's result on Sunday, they would take the final automatic qualifying place and seed above us, pushing us into pot 3.

Unfortunately, even with an Ajax/Roma double, our seeding would still be hanging by a thread with Sevilla and Napoli both being in CL qualifying in August and both potentially able to push us out of pot 2.

So there are the permutations that could either see us having to face Dortmund, Barcelona, Atletico or PSG from pot 2 or Ajax, Olympiakos, Andelecht, Basel or Dynamo Kiev from pot 3. There are no easy games in the Champions League, but that makes a significant difference in fixtures and it doesn't look promising!!

Go Ajax! Go Roma!
 
There was plenty of hubris about last seasons draw - and even one poster here - who shall remain nameless, who claimed that Monoco were just a poor/average team!

Bottom line is no matter who we draw we will have to beat/draw against teams that on paper are lessor or better than us.

Don't care who they are, bring it on! :4: :10:
 
Like I said, there are no easy games, but our worst form in the league coincided with CL group stages.

We would have more of a chance to progress and keep our league form playing Bayern, Olympiakos and another, rather than Bayern, Barcelona and another.
 
We had the easiest possible group going considering we were pot 3 last season and still didn't make it out, so I would rather a group with bigger names in it. A group of Barca, Spurs, Ajax and someone like Malmo would be perfect.
 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4530082/Tottenham-face-nightmare-Champions-League-draw.html

Interesting piece here, pot 2 is ridiculously strong next season so we really do need a favour from Ajax!
 
Spursex - 22/5/2017 11:52

There was plenty of hubris about last seasons draw - and even one poster here - who shall remain nameless, who claimed that Monoco were just a poor/average team!

Bottom line is no matter who we draw we will have to beat/draw against teams that on paper are lessor or better than us.

Don't care who they are, bring it on! :4: :10:

I think most saw the draw as piss easy....
 
Spursex - 22/5/2017 11:52

There was plenty of hubris about last seasons draw - and even one poster here - who shall remain nameless, who claimed that Monoco were just a poor/average team!

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LOL, yeah when he said they were a so-so team I was laughing. Like you I don't care who we get, as long as we turn up this time.
 
ScottDaYid - 22/5/2017 12:41

Interesting piece here, pot 2 is ridiculously strong next season so we really do need a favour from Ajax!

That's why I think it's important. Barca, Dortmund, PSG and Atletico are all in pot 2. City are and United would be leaving only two possible 'weaker' teams in pot 2.
 
I just want Ajax to win whether it helps us or not.
 
Matic - 23/5/2017 15:27

I just want Ajax to win whether it helps us or not.

Me too, if only it may well then stop them from getting players like Griezman on board this summer - as he suggests he won't come if they don't have champions league - his personal sponsorship deals would tank if he did that, as well as his profile.
 
Spursex - 23/5/2017 20:17

Matic - 23/5/2017 15:27

I just want Ajax to win whether it helps us or not.

Me too, if only it may well then stop them from getting players like Griezman on board this summer - as he suggests he won't come if they don't have champions league - his personal sponsorship deals would tank if he did that, as well as his profile.

I am not overly bothered if they sign him, it will free up some of the players that would do well for us....
 
Kinygerbils - 24/5/2017 09:56

Spursex - 23/5/2017 20:17

Matic - 23/5/2017 15:27

I just want Ajax to win whether it helps us or not.

Me too, if only it may well then stop them from getting players like Griezman on board this summer - as he suggests he won't come if they don't have champions league - his personal sponsorship deals would tank if he did that, as well as his profile.

I am not overly bothered if they sign him, it will free up some of the players that would do well for us....

who you thinking of?
 
Well ManUtd are coasting to a win. Mourinho teams truly are so dull, especially in finals.
 
There was plenty of hubris about last seasons draw - and even one poster here - who shall remain nameless, who claimed that Monoco were just a poor/average team!

Spirsex, that would be me. Still think they were average when we played them, but we were shockingly poor. Just watched the Europa final, and looking at the level of both teams we finished the season several levels above both. Didn't see much in the Ajax team to suggest that our alleged MF target would add anything to our team.

If we had played with the style of our end of season games we would have progressed out of the group stage easily but I guess the team was still learning.
 
Our team should have won a trophy in the last 2 seasons, heartbreaking it didn't.

Ajax were utter shit in that final, manure were marginally better than utter shit throughout this season, yet have 2 trophies to show for it.
 
Mourinho is a winner of trophies, he can even win with a crap team. MP has a philosophy that hasn't won one trophy even though he has the best striker in the EPL, the best defence in the EPl and high scoring AM's.
 
Ghanahotspur - 24/5/2017 22:53

Mourinho is a winner of trophies, he can even win with a crap team. MP has a philosophy that hasn't won one trophy even though he has the best striker in the EPL, the best defence in the EPl and high scoring AM's.

You could of course support them then........we lost to chelski by 7 points so they deserved the title, we were a clear 2nd by 8 points and a semi final defeat...the other big guns lay in the wake...enjoy our best ever pl season FFS...and have a great summer...come back fresh and ready to support our team.. ...or buy a red shirt and go on their site to comment!

MOPO is getting us up there...
 
How depressing that a shocking Man Utd team still have a MUCH better season than us.

You just know ars*nal will somehow find a way to win the FA Cup as well, how comes everything always goes against Spurs? lol
 
Losing in the semi is lauded as a success by the happy clappies, like last season when spurs lost to CP in the QF of the cup. The criterion for success at spurs seems pretty low.