Why do we use shops?

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Surely all we are doing is fuelling the profits of the mega rich and would do much better swapping the potatos we grow in our gardens for eggs from the neighbour's hens? Or am I missing something?
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Most of the stuff people buy we don't even need. We're conned into thinking we need new phones and the latest gadgets or cars so we have a status and then just get in debt.

I would love to come off the grid and pay no fuel costs and grow my own food. It's basically freeing ourselves from the chains that are around our necks. However for me to do this I need a mortgage that puts me back in debt.
We could start our own community if we lived local. Having the land is a problem though I would think. My garden is tiny.
 
HeathfieldRoad1874 - 17/10/2016 15:25

People don't grow enough to sustain the population. Could they? Possibly, but most these days can't be bothered.
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If we could get the population to convert to vegetarianism we would only need a fraction of the land area currently used for food production. This would have multiple possitive effects, both direct and knock-on effects. Firstly we would stop the production of excess methane by all the livestock currently being kept. Secondly, it's far easier and as such more eoonimic and greener to transport vegetable matter than livestock or, indeed, meat products. Thirdly the land area currently used, both directly and indirectly, to rear livestock could be put to the production of bio-fuels which are far better for the environment than traditional fossil fuels.

If everyone that has a garden can provide even 10% of their own food supplies we will reduce the damage to the environment hugely and stop feeding the multinationls who's only aim is to seperate us from what little we have.

Tell me why this can't work.


 
I'll stick to the meat thanks, sorry but I'm going to have to ruin your plan.
 
Or am I missing something?

Yeah! Only the last 4 or 5 hundred years!!

Now if you will excuse me, I must try and find where I put the Aston Martin seeds!!
 
I actually think it's conspiracy. The Government put additives in the water that make us crave certain foods, like fats and sugars. They then control the supply of these with Health, Safety and Hygiene regulation, all the time reaping a massive benefit in taxes levied on these shops.
 
People used to live off the land more than today. Life has changed so much that it is yes people can't be bothered however people also don't have the time.

Mom's for instance rarely working going back over the decades. Today is more unusual than usual if a Mom isn't a working Mom.

Trying to run a home, see to children and working on top gives limited time for growing your own etc.

I have always cooked and baked from fresh even when the youngsters were young, however though we grew bits and pieces was not into living off the land in a big way. I did work and ran the ex business too, though my work could be in the time I made as I also worked for myself.
 
1) I don't want to be vegan/vegetarian
2) I've got a small garden
3) I have a bad back and arthritis in my feet.
4) it sounds a shit idea.
 
HeathfieldRoad1874 - 17/10/2016 17:38

I actually think it's conspiracy. The Government put additives in the water that make us crave certain foods, like fats and sugars. They then control the supply of these with Health, Safety and Hygiene regulation, all the time reaping a massive benefit in taxes levied on these shops.
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I think you might be onto something there, probably all part of the same plan that the mind controll experiments in the USA and Japan are part of, ultimately prepairing to introduce us to that alien race that's set up camp on the dark side of the moon.

 
So what would happen to all those employed in retail those from the checkout worker to the lorry driver who in turn is employed by a haulage firm?
 
sirdennis - 17/10/2016 16:24

And JF's high protein diet contributes far more methane that a herd of cows can.

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Are you speaking from experience, sirdennis?
 
SKEGGY - 17/10/2016 22:24

So what would happen to all those employed in retail those from the checkout worker to the lorry driver who in turn is employed by a haulage firm?
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They would have lovely, well tended gardens.

 
The reason we all have to work so hard is because we're all in debt or want silly consumer products that we don't need but made to believe we do.

Ok some people have small gardens and can't grow veg ect. However we all have skills. For example if you are a doctor you could treat people for a basket of potatoes or maybe If your skill is roofing you could fix people's roofs for some eggs and chickens.
That's the problem in society today, we value people with fame and money but not the person in the community who helps people.
 
We could completely start from scratch again and grow all our own stuff, and have chickens for eggs, and cows for milk, and then kill the chickens and cows for meat, and use their skins for clothes and blankets and on and on.

But after a few years we'd probably be back to some kind of system in which there are shops. It's all just too much for us. How would we get tea? Or chocolate?

Things would have to be imported and then sold I guess. In shops.

Anyway, I love going to the supermarket. We'd have time for feck all else if we were doing everything ourselves.

 
Very simply, I can be much more productive doing one thing that I am very good at than trying to do 50 things that I have no experience of. I use shops to buy the things that I need with the money I make doing the one thing that I'm good at.

 
I was in downtown Dublin yesterday and went into Marks and Spencers to use the toilet. That's one good use for shops.
 
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