Why contempt of court matters?

Wayne.Kerr

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Contempt of court is the crime of ignoring the court and its constitutional role in making sure that justice is done.
Robinson was convicted of contempt for interfering with a trial in Canterbury.
His attempts to film defendants on that occasion could, the judge said, have "prejudiced" the jury, leading to an unfair verdict - and he was warned he'd go to jail if he did anything remotely similar again.
Why couldn't we initially report Robinson's arrest and jailing? Reporting restrictions are a long-standing part of the British legal system. In this case, the judge ordered a temporary media black-out because he feared reporting Robinson's conviction could influence the jury in the very case Robinson was targeting.
This is not some new form of censorship directed at Robinson. These are rules that apply to us all, equally. If he is unsure about that, he's now got time on his hands to read a copy of Essential Law for Journalists.
Robinson was already subject to a suspended sentence for a contempt charge related to a separate case in Canterbury.
The judge had warned him then he should expect to go to prison if he committed further offences.
Robinson was given 10 months in jail for contempt of court, and a further three months for breaching the previous suspended sentence.
Judge Geoffrey Marson QC initially imposed restrictions for fear that reporting his arrest would prejudice an ongoing trial.
Following the arrest there were protests outside Downing Street over the weekend.
Robinson founded the far-right EDL in 2009.
It became known for its street marches and demonstrations in towns and cities before he quit the group in 2013.
From the BBC Home Affairs Correspondent
 
Thanks to Judge Marson , for making the story go viral !

The rest of the world can google , and discover the scale of islamic grooming gangs in the UK.

Hopefully Tommy will be OK , he's a tough lad , just needs to get his head down.

I've seen reports that Lord Pearson has written to the Home Secretary, suggesting that if any harm comes to Robinson , he will be held responsible , and face a private prosecution.
 
Unless the BBC repeated his comments or replay the uploaded video then how exactly would reporting the fact Robinson had been jailed for contempt of court have influenced the court case? Would the jury have been more likely to have convicted the accused if they knew Robinson had been jailed or less likely to convict?

There are two issues here. One is if he was in contempt of court and which case it was right he was jailed. The second issue is if it is right to be able to jail someone and then try to keep the fact secret. Personally I don't have an issue with the first point, but I do with the second.
 
Unless the BBC repeated his comments or replay the uploaded video then how exactly would reporting the fact Robinson had been jailed for contempt of court have influenced the court case? Would the jury have been more likely to have convicted the accused if they knew Robinson had been jailed or less likely to convict?

There are two issues here. One is if he was in contempt of court and which case it was right he was jailed. The second issue is if it is right to be able to jail someone and then try to keep the fact secret. Personally I don't have an issue with the first point, but I do with the second.
Are you a fucking judge too? Or is it that you simply like the sound of your own voice? There are other media outlets out there as well as the BBC ffs
 
I was watching the live stream when it happened.
There were 2,400 watching with me. He did not enter the court , or mention anything that is not in the public domain.
The police were watching his stream on facebook simultaneously.
He spoke to the police , asking if he was doing anything wrong ?
He was talking into his fone hoping to reach 10,000 , when the police moved in and arrested him for breach of the peace, and not contempt of court. There was no breach of the peace.

Judge for yourself if you want

 
Are you a fucking judge too? Or is it that you simply like the sound of your own voice? There are other media outlets out there as well as the BBC ffs

I'm not sure how pointing out there is more than one media outlet than just the BBC answers the question of how the media reporting Robinson was jailed would influence how the jury would vote.

And since this forum is a written medium then the sound of my voice is irrelevant. Maybe you are confusing it with YouTube which contains sound?
 
I was watching the live stream when it happened.
There were 2,400 watching with me. He did not enter the court , or mention anything that is not in the public domain.
The police were watching his stream on facebook simultaneously.
He spoke to the police , asking if he was doing anything wrong ?
He was talking into his fone hoping to reach 10,000 , when the police moved in and arrested him for breach of the peace, and not contempt of court. There was no breach of the peace.

Judge for yourself if you want


Think vg thinks he's a judge/criminal barrister also. No I dont want to judge for myself. That's why we pay millions to fund the legal system for people much cleverer than I to judge on my behalf with all the facts and legal knowledge to guide them. Your idol has not appealed. Think that tells you plenty.
 
Stupid people generally don't realise that they are stupid.

That is why they are stupid people.

Anyone who breaches a court order for exactly the same thing falls into that category now matter what their beliefs are.
 
I was watching the live stream when it happened.
There were 2,400 watching with me. He did not enter the court , or mention anything that is not in the public domain.

Isn't it the fact that he was doing a live stream that was the issue, not what he was saying?
 
Stupid people generally don't realise that they are stupid.

That is why they are stupid people.

Anyone who breaches a court order for exactly the same thing falls into that category now matter what their beliefs are.

I think you and a few others miss the point. I am not implying you are stupid although I suspect a few people will spin it that way.

Robinson knew exactly what he was doing and probably took legal advice to know exactly where the line was. I suspect that under normal circumstances he stopped just the right side of the line but he acted the way he did knowing that if the law bit then he would become a martyr for the cause and raise the profile of his campaign.

You think he is stupid for breaking the court order but I think he thought a bit of jail time was an acceptable trade for raising the profile. The fact the law seemed to panic and tried to get a blanket ban on the reporting will probably encourage him and others to step to the line again.
 
I think you and a few others miss the point. I am not implying you are stupid although I suspect a few people will spin it that way.

Robinson knew exactly what he was doing and probably took legal advice to know exactly where the line was. I suspect that under normal circumstances he stopped just the right side of the line but he acted the way he did knowing that if the law bit then he would become a martyr for the cause and raise the profile of his campaign.

You think he is stupid for breaking the court order but I think he thought a bit of jail time was an acceptable trade for raising the profile. The fact the law seemed to panic and tried to get a blanket ban on the reporting will probably encourage him and others to step to the line again.
The 'law' whatever that is did not panic; the judge wanted to conduct a fair trial and didn't want anyone prejudiced or compromised in arriving at a judgment.
 
I can understand the reporting restrictions are to 'protect' the trial in the autumn , the last of the three connected cases.
But the idea is that , whatever is read out in court , evidence heard , etc , has to be kept secret.
He was 'reporting' that the trial was happening , not what was going in inside.
Then to cap it all , is arrested for a breach of the peace that didnt occur.
All rather dubious.
 
I rest my case Baghad Rob

Valenciagill, it's really quite simple.
There was a court ruling forbidding him to do what he did.
He did it in defiance.
He got nicked.

If he was happy to accept the consequence in return for publicity, that makes him even more stupid.
 
I rest my case Baghad Rob

Valenciagill, it's really quite simple.
There was a court ruling forbidding him to do what he did.
He did it in defiance.
He got nicked.

If he was happy to accept the consequence in return for publicity, that makes him even more stupid.
You mean Tommy's a knob head?