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Who is telling the truth?

Our Kids Dad - 17/11/2016 16:37

Exactly and it is being duly move to a suitable venue.

So you move the thread due to a discussion about @@@@@philia but not after numerous pages of off topic politics?

You shame your self OKD.
 
<h2>Dear Jim can you fix it for me that the Roman Catholic Church is investigated by Police.</h2>

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Any of us as children would remember the start of that sentence from the popular children show Jim’ll fix it for you BBC show.

But just as it seems all our innocent childhood memories and dreams will be sullied by the revelations in an upcoming ITV documentary that claims Jimmy Savile sexually abused young children in the 1970s and 80s.

Our beliefs in the cornerstones of our society maybe sullied as well if they don’t take the claims of abuse by the two people previously mentioned in this blog seriously and have an independent investigation into the goings on in the Roman Catholic Church in Scotland.

In particular the goings on at the Parish of St Patrick’s in Kilsyth under Canon Denis O’Connell where both His Eminence Keith Patrick Cardinal O’Brien and Fr Thomas Mullen who has been accused of child rape and is under investigation albeit by his employers the Roman Catholic Church not the Police or government both preached.

The Reason I am targeting on this individual place is because in my investigations it has been host to at least five persons who have been accused convicted or taken part in the cover up of Child rape.

Canon Denis O’Connell association with the BBC started with his posting in London for two years where he worked as a consultant on Catholic broadcasting making many radio and TV appearances Fr O’Connell was no stranger to celebrity which he used to good effect either for fund raising or for community events.

Fr O’Connell staged a free open air concert in Kilsyth in 1976 by the Bay City Rollers, then at the height of their fame. He vaguely knew Tam Paton their manager but his secretary wouldn’t let him in to his office after he had outlined why he was there – to get the Bay City Rollers to play Kilsyth – for free!

The Bay City Rollers

In 1982, Tam Paton was convicted of gross indecency with teenage boys, serving one year of a three year prison sentence. He was also accused of but cleared of raping the band’s guitarist, Pat McGlynn, in a hotel room in 1977.

In 2000, Derek Longmuir the bands drummer was sentenced to 300 hours community service after admitting possessing child pornography.

Sir Jimmy Savile

Sir Jimmy Savile OBE KCSG was a frequent visitor to the Parish of St Patrick’s in Kilsyth during the period when he had a hit TV show ‘Jim’ll Fix It’ or was in between presenting ‘Top of the Pops’ or hosting a show on Radio 1 and could often be seen at 10 O’clock Mass of a morning, sporting a kilt. You could always tell when he was in Kilsyth as his white jaguar car was parked outside the Parish House.

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Jimmy pictured along side Celtic Chairman Kevin Kelly.

It was Jimmy’s mother who had originally got to know Fr O’Connell in his role as Vice Postulator of the Cause for the Beatification of (at that time) the Blessed Margaret Sinclair.

She had a devotion to Margaret Sinclair following a period when the young Jimmy had been very ill after a fall. She always attributed his recovery to Margaret Sinclair’s intercession.

Jimmy and Fr O’Connell formed a close friendship when Jimmy’s mother died which lasted until the then ‘Canon’ O’Connell himself died in 1997.

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In return for Jimmy’s frequent visits to Kilsyth and tireless fundraising, Fr. O’Connell built a fountain in the front piazza at St Patrick’s in his name to recognise his charitable work.

And there is also Fr Thomas Mullen who has been accused by two different adults who don’t know each other and are from different parts of Britain of abusing them.

Is there anything you are hiding Keith Patrick O’Brien? Anything that would help the Police with their investigations?

One Bird that sung.

For many years Fr O’Connell famously kept a mynah bird – which he trained to speak. It had a large and sometimes choice vocabulary! The bird was kept in a large cage in front garden of the Parish House where it could talk to passers-by in the Low Craigends.

Unfortunately this had the side effect that from some of the passers-by, it learned a larger and more colourful vocabulary than any resident of the Parish House would otherwise ever have!

Fr O’Connell also used the bird to great effect to attract the youth to his children’s Masses of which he was very fond and which are remembered by a generation of Kilsyth’s Catholic men and women where you lured by Canon O’Connell mynah bird?

If so this Blog is here to help you there is already contact details posted that you can phone in confidence.

https://themanthebheastscanttame.wordpress.com/2012/09/30/dear-jim-can-you-fix-it-for-me-that-the-roman-catholic-church-is-investigated-by-police-3/#comments
 
Predator Coaches - Sex Abuse in Girls’ Sports is Growing.

There is a growing trend of sex abuse by coaches in the world of girls’ sports that is being compared (in numbers of victims) to what happened in the Catholic Church. Why haven’t we heard more about these coaches that prey until recently? What should we look for and what can we do to stop it? I fear the stories linked here are only the tip of an iceburg heading right toward our children.

What can parents do to make sure this doesn’t happen to their daughter’s? The Seattle Times includes a solutions page entitled “How parents can spot trouble before it's too late” It offers good advice for spotting trouble before it begins. The red flag list includes: long inappropriate full body hugs, rides home, out of town trips, inappropriate text messages, phone conversations, coaches who jump from team to team, or if your daughter suddenly wants to quit or change schools.

Parents need to be wary and diligent in protecting their children especially at such a critical impressionable age of development. Parents need to speak up if they see any inappropriate behavior. Robin Sax writes about what to do in her book Predators and Child Molesters: A Sex Crimes D.A. Answers 100 Of The Most Asked Questions

How parents can spot trouble before it's too late

http://www.seattletimes.nwsource.com/news/local/coaches/news/parents.html
 
<h4>Celtic Boys' Club founder guilty of shameless indecency Anger over allegations suggesting that Jock Stein was involved in 20-year cover-up</h4>
Celtic Boys' Club founder Jim Torbett yesterday was convicted of sex offences against three young players.

A jury at Glasgow Sheriff Court found him guilty of acts of shameless indecency between 1968 and 1974.

The jury, by a majority, found him guilty of indecent offences against Mr James McGrory, 44, Mr David Gordon, 38, and former Scotland footballer Alan Brazil, 39, between 1968 and 1974 when they were teenagers.



http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/12364258.Celtic_Boys_apos__Club_founder_guilty_of_shameless_indecency_Anger_over_allegations_suggesting_that_Jock_Stein_was_involved_in_20_year_cover_up/
 
<h4>The sheer scale of child sexual abuse in Britain</h4>
The Guardian

Children are conned by their abusers in a way that no adult would be. Bruce McLean, for example, who is serving nine years for indecent assaults in Cheshire, was using Manchester United tickets to entrap boys….

In November last year, every newspaper in Britain carried the story of how Scotland Yard had worked with police forces around the country to raid the rooms of teachers at private schools in search of evidence of their involvement in a @@@@@phile ring. The more interesting story, however, was the raid which never happened.
In the weeks before the operation, specialist detectives from the @@@@@phile Unit at Scotland Yard had discussed with Thames Valley the possibility of raiding a teacher at the most prestigious private school in the country – Eton College, whose pupils include the off-spring of some of the most powerful families in Britain, including the heir to the throne, Prince William.

…..Following the story in the Guardian, which was linked to an ITV documentary, Dutch police traced Bjorn’s accent to an area in the north of Holland, where they combed through files of reported child abuse – and found him. It turned out that he had contacted the authorities a year earlier to complain that a Dutch man, whom he named, had been drugging and raping him since he was only three years old, most recently with the assistance of an English man.

http://www.nickdavies.net/1998/04/01/the-sheer-scale-of-child-sexual-abuse-in-britain/
 
<h4>Celtic FC and the Penn State Scandal</h4>

When the Penn State scandal recently hit the headlines in the USA, it disgusted sports fans all over the world.

It goes without saying that the crimes themselves were disgusting, but what perhaps caused the most revulsion stateside was the fact that officials of the Penn State team were complicit in a cover up for over ten years, thereby allowing the abuser opportunity to sexually abuse more victims.

By their inaction, they allowed Sandisky undeserved freedom, and subjected more children to an eternity of the most disgusting sordid memories. Those who covered the crimes up are therefor indirectly complicit in children being abused.

The scandal is well documented here:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penn_State_child_sex_abuse_scandal

The Penn State child sex abuse scandal was an incident in which Jerry Sandusky, a former assistant football coach for the Penn State Nittany Lions, was charged and convicted of multiple counts of sexual abuse of children. Sandusky had located and groomed victims through his charity organization, The Second Mile.

The action of the NCAA was decisive.

For the time period Penn State covered up the scandal they were stripped of every win.
They therefor lost 10 titles and were fined $60M.

It’s no more a punishment than they deserved.

When Celtic FC had their own abuse scandal it was also covered up. Transcripts from newspaper reports:

What punishment did Celtic get?
None.

https://celticscandalcase.wordpress.com/
 
This could be bollox , but...

Monica Peterson who was in Haiti investigating #ClintonFoundation & its ties to child trafficking has died #pizzagate



 
So did his pal Esther Rancid......

Why the bloody hell hasn’t Esther Rantzen been arrested yet?

In an article describing the @@@@@phile ring at the BBC, Esther Rantzen slyly pretended she wasn’t fully aware of Jimmy Savile and had only heard ‘gossip’ about his abuse of thousands of children.

She must think we were fooking born yesterday.

In fact, Rantzen knew damn well what was going on because she herself is a key player in the whole sordid child-abuse scandal and despite many victims personally telling her what they had been subjected to, she refused to listen.

https://thecolemanexperience.wordpress.com/2016/01/27/why-the-bloody-hell-hasnt-esther-rantzen-been-arrested-yet/

Did you write to Thats Life as well orbs?
 
ESTHER RANTZEN and the @@@@@philes

https://www.scribd.com/doc/256503576/ESTHER-RANTZEN-and-the-@@@@@philes

In 1966 Esther Rantzen was a 26-year-old researcher at the BBC when she embarked on an affair with Sir Nicholas Fairbairn

Elm Guest House

Child brothel documents indicate Fairborn assaulted boys in the sauna and that photographs were taken of him!

Another visitor to ELM Guest house House was CHRIS GEILER QPR FOOTBALL CLUB. YOUTH TEAM LEADER.

Along with @@@@@phile ring leader, Colin Peters, linked to Barnes scandal.

'Whose potential targets came from local football teams'

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/@@@@@phile-ring-leader-colin-peters-linked-to-barnes-scandal-8518078.html


 
Knowing the above then these pictures show how easily it is for predators to ensnare their victims.

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(John Murray with Chris Gieler – Chimney Corner Hotel 1986)


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(John Murray with Bill Smith and Stephen Lynch – Chimney Corner Hotel in 1986)
 
Are these revelations just the tip of the iceberg within football...

POLICE are appealing for any more victims of a @@@@@phile football coach to come forward after he was jailed today for sexual abuse.

Danny Gersh, aged 36, director of an Essex-based junior football club, preyed on nine boys aged between seven and 11.

But police believe there could be other victims as Gersh has been a trainer for 10 years, teaching in areas including Charlton, Enfield and Brentwood.

Blackfriars Crown Court heard Gersh filmed some of the abuse.

He also downloaded more than 55,000 indecent photographs of children and babies.

Gersh, from Ilford, admitted 60 child sex offences and was given an indeterminite prison sentence for public protection.

http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/1916555.@@@@@phile_football_coach_has_taught_in_charlton/
 
Associate of Barry Bennell also preyed on boys, two former footballers reveal

Two former professional footballers have independently told the Guardian about another person within the sport who had links to the serial @@@@@phile Barry Bennell and preyed on boys without ever being detected.

Both former players have come forward separately to name the same man, alleging they were abused in one-off incidents as well as being a@@@@ the extensive list of victims from Bennell’s three decades as a coach and talent-spotter.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/nov/17/barry-bennell-two-former-players-reveal
 
Shades of Blue: The Hidden Torment of a Football Star (Inglés) Tapa dura – 6 abr 2017
de David White (Autor), Joanne Lake (Autor)


This is the extraordinary story of David White, a Manchester City legend.

Much of David's youth and senior football career, however, would become blighted by a lack of confidence and consistency. Only David knew the sinister reasons behind this inconsistency. Only David knew who had shot his confidence to pieces. Only David knew that, aged just 11, he had been sexually abused by his football coach.

David's parents had given this coach their blessing, believing that his attentions would hugely benefit their son's football progress. They were, however, utterly unaware that this popular, 20-something, highly-regarded coach - who David hero-worshipped - was in fact a prolific and predatory @@@@@phile.

https://www.amazon.es/Shades-Blue-Hidden-Torment-Football/dp/1782437703

 
Six more 'victims' come forward to speak with police over football figure linked to @@@@@phile ex-coach

Six people have approached the police after former Crewe player Andy Woodward broke his silence over abuse in the sport.

Woodward last week waived his anonymity for an interview with the Guardian, speaking of sexual abuse he suffered from former Crewe youth coach Barry Bennell, a twice-convicted @@@@@phile.

He believes that at least one other person colluded with Bennell and hopes that other victims will be encouraged to come forward.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/six-more-victims-come-forward-9305839