Who Are The League Two Managers? No.9: Mark Cooper (Forest Green)

I'm probably on my own on this but I find this continuing obsession with Mark Cooper and FGR to be at best tiresome, and at worst tinpot.

The catty remarks about his clubs having big budgets could be applied to some of the biggest names in the game just as easily, many of whom have also failed with them.

Every damned club in the FL is bankrolled, none are self financing and I'm maybe a bit old fashioned but I'm pleased for long-time FGR fans that they have this golden era.

This fake rivalry and peevish envy should have been ditched after promotion.

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Brendan Bradley said:
I'm probably on my own on this but I find this continuing obsession with Mark Cooper and FGR to be at best tiresome, and at worst tinpot.

The catty remarks about his clubs having big budgets could be applied to some of the biggest names in the game just as easily, many of whom have also failed with them.

Every damned club in the FL is bankrolled, none are self financing and I'm maybe a bit old fashioned but I'm pleased for long-time FGR fans that they have this golden era.

This fake rivalry and peevish envy should have been ditched after promotion.

Just saying, like
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Suggest you go to the lincs echo website there is a survey on about how clubs like each other, evidently both the Cod heads and PGR like us but we hate them.

BTW have you seen or read any coppers pre and post match media interviews?
 
Brendan Bradley said:
I'm probably on my own on this but I find this continuing obsession with Mark Cooper and FGR to be at best tiresome, and at worst tinpot.

The catty remarks about his clubs having big budgets could be applied to some of the biggest names in the game just as easily, many of whom have also failed with them.

Every damned club in the FL is bankrolled, none are self financing and I'm maybe a bit old fashioned but I'm pleased for long-time FGR fans that they have this golden era.

This fake rivalry and peevish envy should have been ditched after promotion.

Just saying, like
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Firstly, this is not a continuing obsession with Mark Cooper or Forest Green. It is number nine in a series of twenty-three, one for each League Two manager.

Secondly, the remarks about working for bankrolled clubs are true. He does.

Thirdly, not every club is bankrolled. Lincoln are not.

Fourthly, I have seen no evidence of peevish envy towards Cooper or Forest Green. Why should we be envious of them? And why in a peevish way?

I am trying very hard to make every one of these articles as objective as possible. They are extremely factual and contain very little personal opinion. If you don't like facts, don't read them.
 
Scotimp said:
Firstly, this is not a continuing obsession with Mark Cooper or Forest Green. It is number nine in a series of twenty-three, one for each League Two manager.

Secondly, the remarks about working for bankrolled clubs are true. He does.

Thirdly, not every club is bankrolled. Lincoln are not.

Fourthly, I have seen no evidence of peevish envy towards Cooper or Forest Green. Why should we be envious of them? And why in a peevish way?

I am trying very hard to make every one of these articles as objective as possible. They are extremely factual and contain very little personal opinion. If you don't like facts, don't read them.
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The articles are good, most of that one is. The opening about his playing career and the link between grandfather, son and grandson are nicely put. But that's just my opinion.

My comments are really about the comments to the article, because there is too much obsession with a non rival. And let's face it, it doesn't take much to stir the pot.

And yes, SalfordImp, I've seen his post match interviews, he can be a bit of a gob***** but I never really found it that bad.

And I don't really get why so many of our fans are so desperate for fans or managers of other clubs to praise us. If it happens it's only going to be begruding, because the style in the last two years has been effective, not pretty, and it's a teeny bit insecure this need to crave it like some debutante with daddy issues.
 
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Scotimp said:
Thirdly, not every club is bankrolled. Lincoln are not.
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You're kidding, right?

2011 - Loss of 452k
2012 - Loss of 197k
2013 - Loss of 166k
2014 - Loss of 176k
2015 - Loss of 161k
2016 - Loss of 388k

Who do you think was supporting those losses?

The fact that the club has made some of those losses back in the last two years is down to the magnificence of the Cowley influence, and the little bits of luck that come with long cup runs.

Save windfall cup runs and big transfer fees, the club will soon be back to losses in common with everyone else.
 
I dont care if he likes us or not i just dislike the man and his attitude.Not obsessed about him at all but i love it when we beat them ?
 
If his father was NOT an International footballer who played for England and Leeds United would he have a job in football. His critism of his captain on live television when we beat them ar FGR last season was totally unacceptable. I hope he gets his cumuppance in the end for his total disrespect of his team.
 
We are not being bank rolled to the extent that others are. Someone kindly payed the bills to keep us afloat we didn’t however spend high sums in transfers and salary

Set in context to the FGR and the stags we are closer to a Yorkshireman for spending habits!
 
Brendan Bradley said:
You're kidding, right?

2011 - Loss of 452k
2012 - Loss of 197k
2013 - Loss of 166k
2014 - Loss of 176k
2015 - Loss of 161k
2016 - Loss of 388k

Who do you think was supporting those losses?

The fact that the club has made some of those losses back in the last two years is down to the magnificence of the Cowley influence, and the little bits of luck that come with long cup runs.

Save windfall cup runs and big transfer fees, the club will soon be back to losses in common with everyone else.
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I don't really care much for any of that, I just think Cooper is an obnoxious, arrogant little f*cker with the interpersonal skills of 3 year old and the financial skills of a 2 year old. Every single, inevitable failure in his career is cause for celebration as far as I'm concerned.
 
bristolimp said:
We are not being bank rolled to the extent that others are. Someone kindly payed the bills to keep us afloat we didn’t however spend high sums in transfers and salary

Set in context to the FGR and the stags we are closer to a Yorkshireman for spending habits!
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I think I get what you're saying, Bristol. Is it that our overspending is/was acceptable, but if the overspending is more than we're overspending, it's unacceptable?
 
Bart Simpson said:
I don't really care much for any of that, I just think Cooper is an obnoxious, arrogant little f*cker with the interpersonal skills of 3 year old and the financial skills of a 2 year old. Every single, inevitable failure in his career is cause for celebration as far as I'm concerned.
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Yep, Bart, that's a perfectly reasonable opinion to form (though I'm not sure what his financial skills have to do with anything?). He doesn't look like the kind of person I'd want to invite for tea and biscuits myself.

In that way he's no different from other "characters" who divide opinion like Steve Evans or Neil Warnock. Personally, I like the latter, but I don't actually know any of them :)

I don't see, though, why FGR should continue to be routinely referred to on here as PGR and their support levels ridiculed.
 
bristolimp said:
We are not being bank rolled to the extent that others are. Someone kindly payed the bills to keep us afloat we didn’t however spend high sums in transfers and salary
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In fairness Bob didn't have that sort of money to throw about unlike others. If Swann had joined as he was supposed to have we would probably be bank rolled now.
 
I read and enjoyed the well written article but I kind of agree with BB, it seemed to suggest he only played where his dad gave him a game and only managed big money clubs, unlike the author though I've not done any research so have no counter argument. Must admit though loved the look on his face when Raggett got the winner :grinning::grinning::loser:
 
Brendan Bradley said:
I think I get what you're saying, Bristol. Is it that our overspending is/was acceptable, but if the overspending is more than we're overspending, it's unacceptable?
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is it overspending if it is just plugging the losses - more like the business model is broken. These days we have higher revenue so can spend more.

FGR on the other hand overspend because
  • The values involved are x10 what we spent in that period.
  • The bank rolling goes on more stupid outlays (paying thousands a week on players in the conference level) and not plugging the losses.
 
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