When does the game finish?

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rossi2001

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Sundays ref is let off by the FA for not sending YAYa off after the final penalty. By taking off his shirt in celebration he warranted a second yellow,hence, a sending off.

http://www.newsnow.co.uk/A/818823309?-1808:813:0

So when does the game legally end. If players were to swap shirts, they'd all be issued yellow cards.
As soon as the ball went in the net,surely that is the end. Does Oliver have to blow his whistle to actually sanction it.

Perplexed...but still on a high!!!
 
Wow, the absurdity knows no bounds.

I'm astounded that anyone even considered a second yellow was an option in this instance.
 
There might be something here... http://www.football-bible.com/soccer-info/soccer-red-card.html
 
I had a discussion on Twitter last night on this subject, as it started following a tweet by Henry Winter of the Times about Yaya.

I think the game doesn't 'end' until players are in the dressing room, as cards have been issued in the tunnel at HT and FT.

Having said that, a good job it didn't happen back in the day!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Berne_%281954_FIFA_World_Cup%29
 
Wankdorf stadium, teehee.

Why are players booked for removing their shirt? What's the official line? Is it because they're time wasting? If that is the case then how can anyone consider that Yaya should've been booked if there's no time left to waste.

Winter needs to have a word with himself.
 
Utterly pointless sh*t stiring by Winter which is disappointing - I normally have more time for him but this is unecssary and stupid. Starts a debate which serves no purpose.

As Rossi points out if players swap shirts or players who remove them before handing them to children etc in the crowd at the end of the game - why aren't they booked?

The rule about avoiding "excessive displays of joy" is intended to stop players from over-celebrating in front of opposing fans and antagonising them which I understand. Fine. But FFS this is a cup final penalty shoot out so thankfully common sense prevailed.
 
The game ended when the Ref indicated a goal, there were people on the pitch 'they thought it was all over'

A really petty argument from a sad reporter Winter, what was to be gained from this inane comment?
 
Skoorb 'The rule about avoiding "excessive displays of joy" is intended to stop players from over-celebrating in front of opposing fans and antagonising them which I understand. Fine. But FFS this is a cup final penalty shoot out so thankfully common sense prevailed'.

as this was at the City end and i dont think the City players mobbed him, they were too busy mobbing the real hero.

 
Bluedub - 1/3/2016 11:59

Wankdorf stadium, teehee.

Why are players booked for removing their shirt? What's the official line? Is it because they're time wasting? If that is the case then how can anyone consider that Yaya should've been booked if there's no time left to waste.

Winter needs to have a word with himself.
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I had a look on the FA's website, but nothing by way of explanation seemed to be there. Found this

'A change in 2004 to the Laws of the Game championed by FIFA President Sepp Blatter mandated automatic yellow cards for players who remove their shirts while celebrating goals, as he considered this to be unsporting behaviour. In addition, an instruction has been in the additional instructions at the end of the Laws of the Game for some time that should a player jump over or climb onto a perimeter fence to the field of play, he or she should be cautioned for unsporting behaviour'.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fouls_and_misconduct_%28association_football%29
 
Cheers CITK, so nothing about time wasting there.

Blatter found it unsporting eh? It's no wonder the suspicion is held that it's because sponsors logos aren't visible in goal celebrations when you see Septic's name associated with the ruling.

I'm still at a loss to understand why this even entered Winter's thinking though.
 
I'm with you on the Winter thing - I mean what is the **cking point?

It is such a petty form of pedantry - I can well imagine him going to town on how 'stupid' that rule is had the referee actually booked him.

Honestly. What a waste of space.
 
I did reply to HW before going off into a more detailed discussion with a fellow Blue.

The basis of my reply was that Coutinho could also be deemed lucky to be on the field, as he dived in the first half (involving Fernie, IIRC), and wasn't pulled up.
He then, of course, got booked for pulling off his shirt and jumping on the barrier celebrating his goal.

I do think it is a farcical rule.
 
This.

Henry Winter ?@henrywinter Feb 29

Yaya Toure should've had 2nd yellow for removing shirt after winning pen in League Cup final but FA happy ref Oliver applied 'common sense'.
 
This seems to have been something driven by Blatter & FIFA which says it all.

I can understand the authorities not wanting player's celebrations from either antagonising opposing fans (e.g. Gary Neville doing so in front of Liverpool fans after Ferdinand scored at Anfield once I recall or Adebayor in from of the Arsenal animals at the Etihad a few years back) or inciting their own fans into an even greater frothing frenzy.....

Fine. Book them for doing that - base the decision on the circumstances but stop prescribing that the removal of the shirt is automatically a bookable offence.

Personally I would consider booking substitutes for not having their shin pads, shirts or boots on when they are sat on the bench :017: Drives me crazy that they can take so long to get their essential kit on some times. I mean it can't exactly be uncomfortable can it?
 
Does the rule state that the shirt has to be completely removed or is it ok to pull it over one's head before running round like a headless farmyard foul - is it, as has been suggested because of sponsorship logos not being visible?

Being the devils Dick Advocaat I would point out that clubs are willing to take sponsors money to buy players/success so presumably it's not unreasonable for clubs/fans etc to play ball - pun intended.

 
Players need to experiment with how far they can lift up the shirt - also try it at different stages of the game and not just when a goal is scored, maybe before taking a throw in or waiting for a corner.

When an opponent is lying on the turf I'd like to see the whole team take off their shirts and fuss with the collar before putting them back on. What would the ref do...?



 
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