West Ham v Newcastle

The Owl

The Owl

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Another disappointing display so far. We take the lead and sit back. Pope a mixed display, defence poor.
Cannot seem to string a dominant display together.
2-1 down at HT against one of the poorest sides in the Premiership
 
After the first 10 minutes they play with no heart. Sloppy passes...late running for pressure. Too easy to get through. Do they wanna win?
 
Target practice for West ham. West ham goal chalked off. Getting slaughtered
 
Final ball is as bad as I've seen it. Their keeper hasn't made a save. We're too 1 dimensional. Need a player who can unlock defences we have 6 fucking wingers
 
Lethargic display. No shots on target since the 39th minute.
Away form terrible, just cannot seem to cope with the extra games.
I still think that Howe is not the man to take us even higher. He has reached his pinnacle.
The hierarchy will not be happy with the league position
 
Poor all over the pitch but as for Pope - words fail me. At fault for all 3 goals is all I will say.

Gordon in that first half - time and time again he waited until Joelinton overlapped before turning inside and losing the ball. Why would you do that? if I were Joe I would be having a quiet word.
 
Well what a fucking surprise they didn't fucking turn up. Bunch of cretins just couldn't be fucking bothered. They should all be fined a weeks wages. As for Howe well it isn't the first time this has happened is? Down to him as to why it happens and why he seems incapable of changing it. We have been shit in the Premier league since the cup final and getting hummed by the worst team in the premier league is ridiculous.
 
Now's not the time to talk of manager changes but I agree that criticism can't be discounted on the back of an eventual cup win and Howe is fair game to be shot at.

This game was just typical NUFC when the commentators have been saying for weeks of West Ham's bad run and I was looking to see when they'd face us as it was obvious that we'd be the side that allows someone's run to end. Can't forget Derby's 11 point season where they took 4 points off us.

As for today it has to be put down as a day to forget as we were just utter shite in every department. Not sure if there's a sick bug going round but there was no excuse for a lack of energy or pace plus the subs were just baffling at times like Howe was trying new things out to try and kick start our game.

I said top 4 in the Summer and although our performances this season, today apart, have arguably deserved more points, unless we buck up our away ideas then we'll be lucky to get conference league at best, if that at all.

Still early days though with 28 games to go. That's 84 points left to play for with last season seeing us need 66 points to get in the CL. This means that we'd need 54 points. This equates to 18 wins or an accumulation of so many wins and draws.

The club needs an inquest tomorrow and a reset. One bad performance doesn't make us a bad side and we need to remember that. The gap to top 4 is only 6 points. That has to be the target moving forward.
 
Toon_NoMatterWot said:
Now's not the time to talk of manager changes but I agree that criticism can't be discounted on the back of an eventual cup win and Howe is fair game to be shot at.

This game was just typical NUFC when the commentators have been saying for weeks of West Ham's bad run and I was looking to see when they'd face us as it was obvious that we'd be the side that allows someone's run to end. Can't forget Derby's 11 point season where they took 4 points off us.

As for today it has to be put down as a day to forget as we were just utter shite in every department. Not sure if there's a sick bug going round but there was no excuse for a lack of energy or pace plus the subs were just baffling at times like Howe was trying new things out to try and kick start our game.

I said top 4 in the Summer and although our performances this season, today apart, have arguably deserved more points, unless we buck up our away ideas then we'll be lucky to get conference league at best, if that at all.

Still early days though with 28 games to go. That's 84 points left to play for with last season seeing us need 66 points to get in the CL. This means that we'd need 54 points. This equates to 18 wins or an accumulation of so many wins and draws.

The club needs an inquest tomorrow and a reset. One bad performance doesn't make us a bad side and we need to remember that. The gap to top 4 is only 6 points. That has to be the target moving forward.
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Can't really argue with any of that tnmw, there's some annoying things that keep happening though, especially not turning up like today and as for Eddie's mind boggling subs well. We will have to go some to get top 6 now but with nufc you never know
 
Toon_NoMatterWot said:
Now's not the time to talk of manager changes but I agree that criticism can't be discounted on the back of an eventual cup win and Howe is fair game to be shot at.

This game was just typical NUFC when the commentators have been saying for weeks of West Ham's bad run and I was looking to see when they'd face us as it was obvious that we'd be the side that allows someone's run to end. Can't forget Derby's 11 point season where they took 4 points off us.

As for today it has to be put down as a day to forget as we were just utter shite in every department. Not sure if there's a sick bug going round but there was no excuse for a lack of energy or pace plus the subs were just baffling at times like Howe was trying new things out to try and kick start our game.

I said top 4 in the Summer and although our performances this season, today apart, have arguably deserved more points, unless we buck up our away ideas then we'll be lucky to get conference league at best, if that at all.

Still early days though with 28 games to go. That's 84 points left to play for with last season seeing us need 66 points to get in the CL. This means that we'd need 54 points. This equates to 18 wins or an accumulation of so many wins and draws.

The club needs an inquest tomorrow and a reset. One bad performance doesn't make us a bad side and we need to remember that. The gap to top 4 is only 6 points. That has to be the target moving forward.
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Fair summing up but its not just one bad game. The away form is poor and I cannot see us improving enough to rectify this. Far too inconsistent and too many players under performing.
Full backs returning and Wissa will make a difference hopefully.
Guimares apologising to fans yet againwas predictable.
This season will be a crucial test for Howe.
Cannot see us making Europe next season
 
The Owl said:
Fair summing up but its not just one bad game. The away form is poor and I cannot see us improving enough to rectify this. Far too inconsistent and too many players under performing.
Full backs returning and Wissa will make a difference hopefully.
Guimares apologising to fans yet againwas predictable.
This season will be a crucial test for Howe.
Cannot see us making Europe next season
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Brighton away aside (as I was out on the drink in the toon and didnt watch it or bother with the highlights due to knowing we got beat), you could argue that we could have and maybe should have won all of our other away games as the chances were there.

As for European football etc, the gap to the top is still far too close and this season is just another of those where everyone can beat everyone on the day. Maybe take Arsenal, Man City and Liverpool out of the mix as I see them 3 as the final top 3 this season but every other spot is there for the taking and that includes the bottom 3, although I expect us to come good at some point.
 
Howe doesn't change his system never changes the formation or barely even the players. Of course the players can get tired with 2 games in a week and all these internationals. I'm not making excuses because you can't excuse 💩but 4-3-3 clearly doesn't work away from home. Gordon has gone 19 premier league games without registering a goal or assist, of course these numbers will eventually catch up on you. Elanga is another, Howe is so focused on our play going out wide yet our wingers are useless. Time to play Barnes and Murphy. We could do with a top class midfielder to challenge joelinton as he's been rubbish too. Dan Burn at left back is killing us as well. Too predictable even the team sheets
 
crooktownmags said:
Gordon in that first half - time and time again he waited until Joelinton overlapped before turning inside and losing the ball. Why would you do that? if I were Joe I would be having a quiet word.
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He does it all the time with Burn as well before he ends up losing possession. I'm sure the opposition knows he cuts onto his right 90% of the time now and the other 10% on his left he's useless. Ah well at least we don't have to look at him today.
 
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