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You have got to be joking
Well I won't be clapping - This is some warped joke surely?
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Bikini Inspector
Vital Football Hero
Sick of these minutes applause. The Petrov one was justified but ever since there's been a minutes applause every time somebody's cat gets run over. I have refused to join in a couple before and would refuse to join in this one too.
Platt-itudes
Vital Youth Team
Not sure why this clap has been suggested. Doug was a business man above everything else a villa fan came well below that.
He certainly kept the books balanced and took plenty for himself also. The number of stories from former managers and employees only seem to confirm the image of as him as an egotistical wanna be celebrity.
Naming the Witton Lane stand after himself is an act of pure narcissism and hopefully in time it will be renamed, how about "The Rotterdam 82 stand".
I'd hate to see any booing of an elderly man but don't think we should be celebrating frugal business men and their longevity.
He certainly kept the books balanced and took plenty for himself also. The number of stories from former managers and employees only seem to confirm the image of as him as an egotistical wanna be celebrity.
Naming the Witton Lane stand after himself is an act of pure narcissism and hopefully in time it will be renamed, how about "The Rotterdam 82 stand".
I'd hate to see any booing of an elderly man but don't think we should be celebrating frugal business men and their longevity.
OVB
Vital Squad Member
This is no way defending Doug but the debacle of this summer would never have happened on his watch nor was relegation ever a threat
gator
Vital Champions League
No it could have got a lot worse because there is no way in the world he would have accepted being a minority share holder and administration would have been inevitable. Yes I know what ya mean he would never have let things get so bad but it's my understanding that we weren't far off it when Randy stepped in because he had stopped putting money in long before and we were definitely heading for relegation that's for sure.
JuanPabloAngel
Alert Team
Yes, it's very strange what people think about during international breaks. I wonder whose idiotic idea this was? Very strange.
JuanPabloAngel
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sirdennis
Alert Team
Yes 4 years after winning the European Cup.
Some achievement that , not sure Randy or Dr Bull were as good as that.
1958Villan
Vital Football Hero
Ellis didn't want success.
I say that because every time the club got close, he found a way of fucking it up.
The only clap he deserves is the one he'd need a Doctor to treat.
I say that because every time the club got close, he found a way of fucking it up.
The only clap he deserves is the one he'd need a Doctor to treat.
1958Villan
Vital Football Hero
I think he would have Fulford.
I think Steve Bruce would have been Doug Ellis' ideal manager.
OVB
Vital Squad Member
As stated, not defending him and agree with all you and others say, he was a self serving parasite. My point is the Chinese clown is a far bigger snake oil salesman than Doug ever was
Thomas Holte
Vital Football Legend
Being an owner has to be to a large part, down to having a large ego because a big club bleeds money out at an alarming rate and they should know that before they buy a club.
Ellis was a millionaire with a corner shop mentality when at the time we desperately needed a multi-millionaire with lots of money to carry on with the great work Ron Saunders was doing in building teams.
Unfortunately, Ellis continually used the club to satisfy his ego through the media etc and I suspect always at the back of his mind was the plan to turn Villa Park into the Doug Ellis memorial ground thus ensuring his memory remained in peoples minds even when he passes.
The renaming of the Witton Lane and the knocking down and completely rebuilding the Holte End and Trinity Road can be considered to be evidence of this!?
Then we finally got the billionaire we needed (and decent man) with Randy Lerner arriving at Villa Park with the very best of intentions but the wrong personnel running the club on his behalf.
It didn't take long for the realisation of how much money was actually being spent - a rumoured overbearing mother whispering in his ear!? plus a very messy, public and expensive divorce made him realise that actually he hasn't got enough money or the heart anymore, to do the job right and it became obvious that being a billionaire wasn't enough and you actually need to be a multi-billionaire resulting in that he lost all interest in the club.
Next, we had a man claiming to be a Dr and a multi-billionaire in charge of mystery companies within China and someone even Chinese people had never heard of so pointless even trying to Google the guy because he doesn't exist which makes you wonder if, in reality, he was just a front man for some Chinese businessmen?....That's my own guess.
Now we have 2 immensely rich owners in Nassef Sawiris and Wes Edens and all of a sudden Aston Villa are now the 3rd or 4th richest club in the UK which alone takes some beating.
They have impressed me with their methodical, preplanned and calm approach in taking over the club which hasn't involved any knee-jerk reactions and something I'm sure Steve Bruce is grateful of!
However, I bet when it actually comes to what they want and how they go about getting it they would be ruthless so you can put money on them already squeezing Tony Xia & Co out of the club.
At long last, we actually have real money men in charge of the club, however, having already gone through the above other owners and all the problems they created you have to remain cautious as well.
If you want to clap Ellis then you do so but not for me thanks. In my opinion, he doesn't deserve it and only Ellis would want that while he is still alive to see it and not deceased which is the normal way of doing a tribute.
Ellis was a millionaire with a corner shop mentality when at the time we desperately needed a multi-millionaire with lots of money to carry on with the great work Ron Saunders was doing in building teams.
Unfortunately, Ellis continually used the club to satisfy his ego through the media etc and I suspect always at the back of his mind was the plan to turn Villa Park into the Doug Ellis memorial ground thus ensuring his memory remained in peoples minds even when he passes.
The renaming of the Witton Lane and the knocking down and completely rebuilding the Holte End and Trinity Road can be considered to be evidence of this!?
Then we finally got the billionaire we needed (and decent man) with Randy Lerner arriving at Villa Park with the very best of intentions but the wrong personnel running the club on his behalf.
It didn't take long for the realisation of how much money was actually being spent - a rumoured overbearing mother whispering in his ear!? plus a very messy, public and expensive divorce made him realise that actually he hasn't got enough money or the heart anymore, to do the job right and it became obvious that being a billionaire wasn't enough and you actually need to be a multi-billionaire resulting in that he lost all interest in the club.
Next, we had a man claiming to be a Dr and a multi-billionaire in charge of mystery companies within China and someone even Chinese people had never heard of so pointless even trying to Google the guy because he doesn't exist which makes you wonder if, in reality, he was just a front man for some Chinese businessmen?....That's my own guess.
Now we have 2 immensely rich owners in Nassef Sawiris and Wes Edens and all of a sudden Aston Villa are now the 3rd or 4th richest club in the UK which alone takes some beating.
They have impressed me with their methodical, preplanned and calm approach in taking over the club which hasn't involved any knee-jerk reactions and something I'm sure Steve Bruce is grateful of!
However, I bet when it actually comes to what they want and how they go about getting it they would be ruthless so you can put money on them already squeezing Tony Xia & Co out of the club.
At long last, we actually have real money men in charge of the club, however, having already gone through the above other owners and all the problems they created you have to remain cautious as well.
If you want to clap Ellis then you do so but not for me thanks. In my opinion, he doesn't deserve it and only Ellis would want that while he is still alive to see it and not deceased which is the normal way of doing a tribute.
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gmvillan
The Shackles Are Off!
And let’s not forget the near-relegation circa 1991 (Venglos as manager) after we had finished runner-up the year before... I think that counted as being “in danger” of relegation....
OVB
Vital Squad Member
And we bounced back almost immediately and should have won it again, a cup then 4th and and another cup a fa cup semi then a couple of years later top of the league at Christmas, FA cup final, give me a decade like that again any time soon and I will die happy
Erod
Gone but not forgotten...
Dec 68 new board organised by pat Mathews. Ellis brought on as had experience at blues.
A good board brum wealthy businessmen. Then out of the summer blue Ellis turns up at director Jim Hartley’s Norfolk broads holiday boat.
“I’ve come for your support in getting rid o f Harry Parkes”
Doug you’ve come all this way to tell me that , sorry can’t support that. Ellis couldn’t get the support he needed so he called an EGM and got rid of all of them.
The EGM was vile. Villa supporters fighting each other in the stand.
All because Ellis couldn’t get on with Parkes. He hated that Harry had played for the Villa and new a fair bit more of the game than he did.
It was obvious to anyone with half a brain that Ellis wouldn’t be happy until he was in full charge. His first game in charge was the world club champiosnp where on the pitch he told Tony Barton there would be no bonus for winning the game.
His ego stopped him bringing Clough in when 95% of mail readers wanted him. Then when Saunders was becoming bigger st the club he had to go. Same with BFR
Why would you aplaud a man , surposeably one of us , for taking millions of pounds out of our great club.
And all because Doug didn’t like Harry.
This rewriting of history is redicilous.
A good board brum wealthy businessmen. Then out of the summer blue Ellis turns up at director Jim Hartley’s Norfolk broads holiday boat.
“I’ve come for your support in getting rid o f Harry Parkes”
Doug you’ve come all this way to tell me that , sorry can’t support that. Ellis couldn’t get the support he needed so he called an EGM and got rid of all of them.
The EGM was vile. Villa supporters fighting each other in the stand.
All because Ellis couldn’t get on with Parkes. He hated that Harry had played for the Villa and new a fair bit more of the game than he did.
It was obvious to anyone with half a brain that Ellis wouldn’t be happy until he was in full charge. His first game in charge was the world club champiosnp where on the pitch he told Tony Barton there would be no bonus for winning the game.
His ego stopped him bringing Clough in when 95% of mail readers wanted him. Then when Saunders was becoming bigger st the club he had to go. Same with BFR
Why would you aplaud a man , surposeably one of us , for taking millions of pounds out of our great club.
And all because Doug didn’t like Harry.
This rewriting of history is redicilous.
