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The Fear

The Fear

A Wise Man (once sat next to him)
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/oct/15/welfare-reform-minister-disabled-not-worth-minimum-wage

Welfare reform minister: some disabled people ‘not worth’ minimum wage
 
Yes I heard this on Prime Ministers questions.

The only shock to me is that the Tories were caught out actually saying it .
 
Amen SirDen dude, i thought them whiley old foxes toffee noses was clever than that getting caught out saying it, we all know they would have us down the coal mines for two bob a week if they could, instead they now just allow mass immigration cos they will work for a pittence nothing against them as where they come from is hard life, but leaves us up the swanny, disabled people am not disabled they am human beings like all on us, we can all get a disability, maybe the Tories disablilty is not having a heart?
 
It is probably the last minority group that can still be discriminated against I think, mainly because disability isn't something that many people want to think about.

We are also socially conditioned to look away or think 'ill' of those scarred up, deformed, different...

Think back to when you were a child, you probably stared at someone in a wheelchair, or disabled in some way and your parents (being kind) would say stop staring, look away.

What people should be saying is 'if you are going to stare, say hello'

I remember way over 10 or more years ago I had my stick, I was in a queue, tried to move and for some reason couldn't. I looked down and a little girl was hugging the stick!!!!!!!! The mom was mortified, I thought it brilliant and laughed. Her initial reaction was get off, leave the poor man alone.

No, say hi to the man (not a poor man) etc.

Plus think back to the cartoons, batman and robin, disney films etc etc. Most badies are disfigured.. Blimey, even The Lion King, the evil uncle is called Scar.

End of ramble.
 
Response from David Cameron on it:

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David Cameron invokes memory of Ivan over disabled 'not worth minimum wage'

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David Cameron has slapped down Lord Freud, the welfare minister, who suggested that disabled people should not be entitled to the minimum wage.
Lord Freud, the welfare minister, suggested that disabled people are not "worth" the minimum wage of £6.50 an hour.
At a fringe meeting at Conservative Party conference, Lord Freud was recorded telling a Tory councillor: "You make a really good point about the disabled.
"Now I had not thought through, and we have not got a system for, you know, kind of going below the Minimum Wage.
"There is a group, and I know exactly who you mean, where actually as you say they’re not worth the full wage.

Cont: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/david-cameron/11164121/David-Cameron-invokes-dead-son-to-slap-down-minister-who-said-disabled-not-worth-minimum-wage.html
 
Funny thing is they are attacking the benefits of the most vulnerable in society and then telling them they aren't good enough to work. Fabulous plan to help those who need the most help in life. And the wishy washy excuses some come up with are beyond contemptible or from people who have no idea the desperation felt by those not fit and strong.

There was a way this could have been communicated in order to try to assist disabled folks back to work whilst being aided by the system (as the system was intended to do) but no, just rip them apart as not worthy instead.
 
He would have been promoted to the Cabinet under Thatcher

Every now and then the real Tory Party appears. Thank heavens for the Lib Dems this last 5 years,the future however will be different.Nigel Farage instead of Nick Clegg
 
The Fear - 15/10/2014 14:40



Think back to when you were a child, you probably stared at someone in a wheelchair, or disabled in some way and your parents (being kind) would say stop staring, look away.



End of ramble.
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You ramble dude cos it's right!!

I think i was lucky to have a family that taught me there is no difference just cos someone was in a wheelchair etc, maybe having an Handicapt uncle and freinds from as far as i can remember who had as i call them challenges to overcome but also i was told i would be wheelchair bound for life when me hip come out of socket until at the final bit the doctor contacted us and said there was a revolutional new way in the USA that could help me and i would be the 2nd to ever try it and it worked but i still remember being in a wheelchair for one and half years of my lfe and hospital bound all that time missing mom and dad, all these things has probably made me over protective tbh as my mate used to say who was in a wheelchair lol and i was used to fight anybody that said anything or took the pizz at school, maybe it is just the privalged to not have these challenges needed them to learn and really be human. :69:
 
The thing that sticks in my head being a 4 year old in a wheelchair and watching the other kids run around, this is why i will learn my kids as i was that it is so important to make anybody not feel any different, the kid next to me in hospital at the time was in longer than me he had bad diabetes etc, Mark and he was the nicest kid used to race me round the warc and get told off lol but thatis what people remember and want too in different circumstances in life we am born into, just wish people would realise they ay alien cos of conditions or illness's or anything, man i could crush some balls with these toffee nose bas***s
 
They don't do themselves any favours, if he sacked him immediately then he could have deflected criticism, if anyone said anything he could say - well I sacked him, what else could I do? Now he hasn't sacked him he looks like an idiot, who advises these people?
 
This is total bullshit, out of context opportunism by that twat Millaband. Even more worrying is that people believe it.
 
Think this dickhead could actually become more unpopular than Thatcher ever did personally I have never hated a politician like I hate Cameron but then again I never had to depend on the state before I would love to see Cameron live on £66 a week like I have been forced to.For me there is a light at the end of the tunnell in the form of a sizeable claim but for others who find themselves unable to do their jobs again through no fault of their own and get refused disability because they can walk 20 yards but find themselves unemployable there really is no hope poor bastards must be so desperate because of the despicable policies of this despicable man.
 
Juan Mourep - 15/10/2014 16:27


Says a "man" who earns how much for doing what exactly?
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Says a "man" who earns in a year what the average "man" playing in the Premiership earns in six weeks.
 
Not sure I understand that comparison, players are showmen, entertainers and yes, totally over paid, but they aren't there to run a country?
 
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