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We all ready fora General Election then?

Another topic to be discussed (why is it me that brings topics up) today.

Its the Tory asperation to give a few bob to the plebs upnorth for better transport.

This is what they want you to use,it has my backing as it would help with climate change.

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Corbyn seems to be going much further. On the Daily Mirror front page is a bribe of £6700 per hosuehold to vote Labour. Everything much cheaper and at least £10 and hour for everyone - vote labour. Can't wait for my pension to be increased to £20k+ per year. No need for anyone to get a job then?
 
Another topic to be discussed (why is it me that brings topics up) today.

Its the Tory asperation to give a few bob to the plebs upnorth for better transport.

This is what they want you to use,it has my backing as it would help with climate change.

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As Jezza wants to give our entire road building budget back to those poor London train commuters, we should prepare for anything. Only thing missing from this picture is a man with a bucket and shovel cleaning up the Labour Manifestos the horses will leave in the road.
 
You can blame Govt's when as a direct action of a change in legislation results in a massive increase in domestic abuse cases being put on the back burner by the police because of RUI.2 women a week are killed every week thru domestic abuse.

Was that the intent of the legislation change, to increase violence against women? Or was it an unintended, unexpected consequence.
 
Another topic to be discussed (why is it me that brings topics up) today.

Its the Tory asperation to give a few bob to the plebs upnorth for better transport.

This is what they want you to use,it has my backing as it would help with climate change.

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According to research, on Politics Today this lunchtime, the north is "
£66 billion worse off than the soouth had the gov't spend been equal across the country.

Conflate that with the 1/3rdreduction for all rail season ticket holders,( note the 1/3rd off is not for every ticket) and that only compounds the issue as only 11% of all tickets are season tickets and, guess where the season ticket users are located? the South and south east so, basically Labour are going to reduce fares for the London commuters most of which are on well above minimum wage and most are able to afford itt even thoughthey make a lot of noise about it.Theres' a similar scenario around dental health check ups and broadband - many can afford it and do pay it.

I doubt if anyone is opposed to the less fortunate being looked after and, as a society, it is something we should aspire to but, like it or lump it, creating a stigma or not IT HAS TO BE TARGETED and not open to abuse by those that know theitr way around the system.The Labour manifesto overlooks this, in their desire to take over they are losing all sense of proportion, all sense of realism and making decisions that actually discriminate against the most deserving

The 'typical family will be £6,700 better off' claim was also rubbished. because the typical family used in the example had 2 minimum wage parents, with 2 children at nursery, not claiming or entitled to any other benefits using season tickets to commute into London daily. That set up would be hard, almost impossible to find.

As FKB says, Corby and the politburo should have walked this but the absolute extremes they are going to to bribe the voters is proving so incredible to so many it is actually alienating them.

Even the neglected gullible deserving ones are seeing through it.
 
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As Jezza wants to give our entire road building budget back to those poor London train commuters, we should prepare for anything. Only thing missing from this picture is a man with a bucket and shovel cleaning up the Labour Manifestos the horses will leave in the road.
By the way this transport aspiration was exposed on todays Politics Live as "double spending",this nothern transport fantasy has been quoted as giving 4.8 billion to be shared across 8 mayoral metropolitan areas and will not start until 2022 and last 5 years,you do the math,but it was ousted as "double spend" because the Tories say it will be paid for by not raising corporation tax,that money has already been allocated to the NHS.
 
The government didn't hit the women, men did, bad men who need to be punished but it is not a govenrment issue. No govenrment should rule our lives
on every issue.

Laws rule our lives Mr Chips,Laws are made by Govt's.

The law change enabled the estranged husband to be given the keys to house back,the police had to do this because under RUI they cannot impose restrictions,unlike bail which could have.
 
The consequence's are there for all to see,May made a big error,and people are paying for it in horrendous ways.


Then it is a bad law and needs correcting. I know you feel strongly about the outcome of this CBB, but this is not party political, this is governmental. Governments make laws, they do so to the best of their knowledge and ability. Sometimes they get unexpected consequences and the law has to be amended or new guidelines issued. This is Government, and as I said before I find trying to score party policial points as somewhat distasteful.
 
Then it is a bad law and needs correcting. I know you feel strongly about the outcome of this CBB, but this is not party political, this is governmental. Governments make laws, they do so to the best of their knowledge and ability. Sometimes they get unexpected consequences and the law has to be amended or new guidelines issued. This is Government, and as I said before I find trying to score party policial points as somewhat distasteful.
D'ya find this distasteful Pops? UTMPB78293719_1744187885716124_3049171573203271680_n.jpg
 
Forget the policies, forget the give aways, forget the spin and look at the record of a man who will be in charge of our safety and security.

J Corbyn

Education Primary: Castle House School, an independent preparatory school near Newport, Shropshire.

Education Secondary: Adams' Grammar School Newport two A-Levels, at grade E, the lowest-possible passing grade

Professional achievements:

Invited two IRA members to parliament two weeks after the Brighton bombing.
Attended Bloody Sunday commemoration with bomber Brendan McKenna.
Attended meeting with Provisional IRA member Raymond McCartney.
Hosted IRA linked Mitchell McLaughlin in parliament.
Spoke alongside IRA terrorist Martina Anderson.
Attended Sinn Fein dinner with IRA bomber Gerry Kelly.
Chaired Irish republican event with IRA bomber Brendan MacFarlane.
Attended Bobby Sands commemoration honouring IRA terrorists.
Stood in minute’s silence for IRA gunmen shot dead by the SAS.
Refused to condemn the IRA in Sky News interview.
Refused to condemn the IRA on Question Time.
Refused to condemn IRA violence in BBC radio interview.
Signed EDM after IRA Poppy massacre massacre blaming Britain for the deaths.
Arrested while protesting in support of Brighton bomber’s co-defendants.
Lobbied government to improve visiting conditions for IRA killers.
Attended Irish republican event calling for armed conflict against Britain.
Hired suspected IRA man Ronan Bennett as a parliamentary assistant.
Hired another aide closely linked to several convicted IRA terrorists.
Heavily involved with IRA sympathising newspaper London Labour Briefing.
Put up £20,000 bail money for IRA terror suspect Roisin McAliskey.
Didn’t support IRA ceasefire.
Said Hamas and Hezbollah are his “friends“.
Called for Hamas to be removed from terror banned list.
Called Hamas “serious and hard-working“.
Attended wreath-laying at grave of Munich massacre terrorist.
Attended conference with Hamas and PFLP.
Photographed smiling with Hezbollah flag.
Attended rally with Hezbollah and Al-Muhajiroun.
Repeatedly shared platforms with PFLP plane hijacker.
Hired aide who praised Hamas’ “spirit of resistance“.
Accepted £20,000 for state TV channel of terror-sponsoring Iranian regime.
Opposed banning Britons from travelling to Syria to fight for ISIS.
Defended rights of fighters returning from Syria.
Said ISIS supporters should not be prosecuted.
Compared fighters returning from Syria to Nelson Mandela.
Said the death of Osama Bin Laden was a “tragedy“.
Wouldn’t sanction drone strike to kill ISIS leader.
Voted to allow ISIS fighters to return from Syria.
Opposed shoot to kill.
Attended event organised by terrorist sympathising IHRC.
Signed letter defending Lockerbie bombing suspects.
Wrote letter in support of conman accused of fundraising for ISIS.
Spoke of “friendship” with Mo Kozbar, who called for destruction of Israel.
Attended event with Abdullah Djaballah, who called for holy war against UK.
Called drone strikes against terrorists “obscene”.
Boasted about “opposing anti-terror legislation”.
Said laws banning jihadis from returning to Britain are “strange”.
Accepted £5,000 donation from terror supporter Ted Honderich.
Accepted £2,800 trip to Gaza from banned Islamist organisation Interpal.
Called Ibrahim Hewitt, extremist and chair of Interpal, a “very good friend”.
Accepted two more trips from the pro-Hamas group PRC.
Speaker at conference hosted by pro-Hamas group MEMO.
Met Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh several times.
Hosted meeting with Mousa Abu Maria of banned group Islamic Jihad.
Patron of Palestine Solidarity Campaign – marches attended by Hezbollah.
Compared Israel to ISIS, Hamas, Hezbollah and al-Qaeda.
Said we should not make “value judgements” about Britons who fight for ISIS.
Received endorsement from Hamas.
Attended event with Islamic extremist Suliman Gani.
Chaired Stop the War, who praised “internationalism and solidarity” of ISIS.
Praised Raed Salah, who was jailed for inciting violence in Israel.
Signed letter defending jihadist advocacy group Cage.
Met Dyab Jahjah, who praised the killing of British soldiers.
Shared platform with representative of extremist cleric Muqtada al-Sadr.
Compared ISIS to US military in interview on Russia Today.
Opposed proscription of Hizb UT-Tahrir.
Attended conference which called on Iraqis to kill British soldiers.
Attended Al-Quds Day demonstration in support of destruction of Israel.
Supported Hamas and ISIS-linked Viva Palestina group.
Attended protest with Islamic extremist Moazzam Begg.
Made the “case for Iran” at event hosted by Khomeinist group.
Photographed smiling with Azzam Tamimi, who backed suicide bombings.
Photographed with Abdel Atwan, who sympathised with attacks on US troops.
Said Hamas should “have tea with the Queen”.
Attended ‘Meet the Resistance’ event with Hezbollah MP Hussein El Haj.
Attended event with Haifa Zangana, who praised Palestinian “mujahideen”.
Defended the infamous anti-Semitic Hamas supporter Stephen Sizer.
Attended event with pro-Hamas and Hezbollah group Naturei Karta.
Backed Holocaust denying anti-Zionist extremist Paul Eisen.
Photographed with Abdul Raoof Al Shayeb, later jailed for terror offences.
Mocked “anti-terror hysteria” while opposing powers for security services.
Named on speakers list for conference with Hamas sympathiser Ismail Patel.
Criticised drone strike that killed Jihadi John.
Said the 7/7 bombers had been denied “hope and opportunity”.
Said 9/11 was “manipulated” to make it look like bin Laden was responsible.
Failed to unequivocally condemn the 9/11 attacks.
Called Columbian terror group M-19 “comrades”.
Blamed beheading of Alan Henning on Britain.
Gave speech in support of Gaddafi regime.
Signed EDM spinning for Slobodan Milosevic.
Blamed Tunisia terror attack on “austerity”.
Voted against banning support for the IRA.
Voted against the Prevention of Terrorism Act three times during the Troubles.
Voted against emergency counter-terror laws after 9/11.
Voted against stricter punishments for being a member of a terror group.
Voted against criminalising the encouragement of terrorism.
Voted against banning al-Qaeda.
Voted against outlawing the glorification of terror.
Voted against control orders.
Voted against increased funding for the security services to combat terrorism.
 
A good few inche's of this stuff from Wednesday nite onwards for 24 hours is what i want,i think a general election with a 5% turnout would be fantastic news.

Would it have to be re booted for the middle of January or would a very low turnout still count.

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I liked Madness, the ska rhymths, the quirky songs, the nutty dancing.

I'm not sure I'd take Suggs opinions as gospel on that basis.


You know this is what I've been trying to put my finger on, about all these quotes from famous people. Who the hell are they, with their comfortable millionaires lifestyles to lecture me on what I should think...? Bollocks to one. Bollocks to them all. I'll make my own mind up, thank you.