Was the moon landing in 1969 a hoax?

Yes, but hitler didn't fool them, he whipped them up into a frenzy.

This one, for me, just too big to make up,someone somewhere would have spilled the beans or found out the truth by now.
 
holtelower - 3/3/2014 17:53

For those who say "how can it be covered up (not that I am saying it is or isn't in this, just the point) - just look at World War 2 !!!

Adolf Hitler deceived 50 odd million germans into his propoganda.

Governments can do a hell of a lot if they want to.
Click to expand...

Agree 100% with this, just look up "Fear, uncertainty and doubt"...

It goes for anything - including the sugar industry, tobacco industry, the many law suites in USA over populations drinking "unsafe water" when told it was perfectly ok, Pharmaceutical companies, the food industry as a whole, GM crops/foods, the list goes on and on..

Questions over age of the Earth, many branches of science(especially genetics where more and more are questioning evolution), age of the dinosaurs, the need to abolish religion for politics to thrive and control mankind even further..etc..(no not turning this into a religious thread - just giving examples of how politics and governments/large companies, money, power can control populations.

 
And would a moon landing in 1969 have been great for America, the publicity, power, to be a world leader? = Yes, you can see the reasoning behind it, "if" it was a hoax. Especially as the USSR space program at that time was beginning to be rumoured to have been superior to that of the Americans.
 
Green Tea - 3/3/2014 17:57

The thing is Heath - both sides can be explored and have valid points.

The flag could have had wire across the top of it like they say. And like they say the movement is just from whilst it is being placed in the ground and natural movement, not wind.

But what about the 2 photo images with the exact same background = one photo with the spacecraft, another then without the spacecraft yet both containing the exact same background.

And how do we account for the astronaut coming out of the spacecraft with the sun behind the craft, yet he is visibly seen in light? He would be in complete darkness as we only have one sun and it was behind the craft..The guy taking the photo didnt have a grand lighting system(stage quality) to light up th whole darkside of the ship.

And like Holtelower mentioned all we had as kids was the Spectrum and commodore 64 and that was in 80's over 10 years later after we had sent man to the moon. Was was technology so crap in the 80's yet we were sending guys to the moon in 1969?
Click to expand...

You watch one program, which presumably had an agenda, and that's it? You just believe it outright? That's a bit idiotic, isn't it? Each of those points has a valid counter argument, if you care to look.

What can't be denied is the tyre tracks from the Luna Rover right where they said they landed, the mirrors placed on the moon and the flags still there today. These have all been verified by the Chinese and Indian space agencies.

Or do you think Aliens placed them there?
 
There is no doubt man has landed on the moon, several times.

Is the question did Armstrong et al land on the moon that day, or was that first time in a studio? Some of the photographic evidence is quite puzzling, light/shade directions etc.

Great story about Kubrick putting clues in the Shining!!
 
Tellamuir - that crossed my mind too. Ive no doubt that in the modern day we have landed on the moon. However was the technology really there in 1969? I mean we are talking before VHS recorders, microwaves etc..
 
How do you account for all the amateurs that tracked the landing? Were they in on it as well? Does that mean that Jodrell Bank, at Manchester University, was in the pockets of NASA? Prior to 1969 they were working with the Russian space program, so I'm not sure they would have hidden anything, were there any doubt.

Taking one source, and basing your opinion on that alone is just nonsense. Only a complete moron would do so.
 
http://www.arrl.org/eavesdropping-on-apollo-11

In July of 1969 a ham radio operator and amateur radio-astronomer by the name of Larry Baysinger, W4EJA, accomplished an amazing feat. He independently detected radio transmissions from the Apollo 11 astronauts on the lunar surface.

In fact, this was one piece of evidence that the Apollo 11 signals the receiver picked up were indeed from the Moon — if the antenna was not kept aimed at the Moon, the signal disappeared.
 
Just putting it out there Heath - im on the fence anyway in regards to this one. The 60's and 70's was a time where propaganda, dodgy politics was quite common. Moon landings could be true, could be hoax it wouldnt surprise me either way.

Did you watch Horizon last night?
 
There is just too much evidence, freely available, that the landings did happen. It is irrefutable, if you bother to look.

No, I didn't see Horizon last night. What was it about?
 
It was about the big bang theory and various scientist's thoughts on the subject and what they are doing to try and find out where the universe came from.
 
You can watch it here;

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00vdkmj
 
The 'big bang' is a very misleading term, a lot of scientists refute the claim that there was a massive 'explosion'.

Would be interested to watch that tomorrow on my day off.
 
Yeah very interesting but you cant kinda past feeling frustrated at the end of the program as they really dont know anything do they? It all comes to beliefs at the end of the day - I mean they have all this equipment doing all sorts of experiments and tests, yet they know nothing about how the universe came about. You can get 5 of the top scientists in Canada(on the program last night) and they all say 5 different theories.

The one I liked best is the huge aluminium tube(plum brook station) where they take out everything to try and create an area of "nothing" - Its impossible to do 100% but love the way they are least trying. The scientist explaining this area(Michio Kaku) was I believe Japanese who had an upbringing of Buddhism and Christian Sunday school and after listening to him(to me he seemed the most intellect of all of them) you cant help but think he see's the idea of supernatural force behind creation.

But even so I was still left frustrated after watching - Before watching I thought that we as a species knew more, then after watching I realised how little we do know.
 
If we knew it all then all research would have stopped. That's the point, and the enjoyment of Science. The fact you expected one final answer just shows your naivety when it comes to Scientific matters.

It's been said before, Science does not give us definitive answers in every area, but merely a model to work from, which allows us to make predictions for the future.
 
Even if you believe in God then you still have to understand that a 'science' has been 'invented' allowing the rules of the Universe to operate from day one! God hasn't intervened in the meantime saying - oh bugger I got that bit wrong, here's a bit of iridium to balance it up!

It's a shame GT that you feel the need to say things like - oh the religious scientist is the bestest, because he thinks someone made it or it's super natural. Can't we drop the religious aspect and merely discuss the issues in front of us.
 
I was thinking the same thing, facehead, but you have been much more polite than I would have been. Well done for the show of restraint. :98: :98: :98:
 
You must log in or register to reply here.