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radfordinlondon
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Well if german analytics cant improve us then nothing can! XG is not everything but it might help to get some structure into recruitment. At least the owner is doing something and targeting areas of the club that have under performed.
This has to be a posive development imo
AdebolaCornflakes
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Basha73
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Just make sure you turn the video off. Last thing we need is another of Ingy’s rear end specials. Put me right off my chocolate brownie...
mao tse tung
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Dont tell me you have fallen for all that XG guff.
Do you honestly think that any Clubs use XG and those idiotic heat maps that all the experts are using on Twitter?
The U23s have been using analytics for a few years now with high levels of success; and there is certainly nothing wrong with their recruitment.
How long has he been at Stuttgart for,? Whilst things have been on the up for them recently, they have been punching below their weight for a while.
I remember going to watch them in the days of Bobic, Elber and Balakov.
Quality side.
mao tse tung
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They play Augsburg tonight, live on BET365
mao tse tung
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Basha73
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I have heard a couple of managers mention xG including Allardyce and Tuchel. I am guessing they go into much greater depth though...
mao tse tung
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Has it occurred to you that some people may be being paid to promote these gimmicks?
Most of the Companies who provide this kind of data are either owned by the Bookmakers or provide services to Bookmakers; for example Opta are now owned by Skybet and Infogol is owned by Timeform which in turn is owned by Betfair/Paddy Power.
Earlier this year I received an unsolicited email from a Scandinavian Company who offered the latest cutting edge data; the Company boasted of the relationships they had with a number of top Clubs throughout the world.
The price of this all singing all dancing data, £400 per month or £1000 per 3 months.
As a teaser I was offered a months supply of their up to the minute, active XG data and the associated selections on the over and under markets; this came with a complete run down on how the data had been manipulated for each game and the rationale behind each selection.
Things went so well during the months trial that after three weeks it was extended for another month; thankfully I had the sense to not risk any money on any of the selections.
Had I bet the selections provided, using a recommended opening Bank of 10k and setting stakes as per the Kelly criteria, which is a formula that calculates how much of your bank to bet on each selection (if you win the amount increases and decreases if you lose) I would have lost over half of my starting bank.
Thankfully the Company stopped mailing me shortly after the trial, but no doubt they are still doing good business; and do not forget that there is a huge demand out there.
The number of people playing the game has been on the decline for years yet the numbers watching the game is on the increase; a lot of people who passed up the chance of playing when they could now think they can compensate by crunching the numbers.
The problem with that approach is one of context.
I work in automotive which is wall to wall lean six sigma, which is a data driven approach to limit errors caused by variation.
The very first thing that is drilled into you is the mantra that data without context is meaningless; not only is it the first lesson you get but it is the most important one.
mao tse tung
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Apparently Georgios Syrianos is big buddies with Kyriakos Dourekas, our Director of Football; he is the one trying to tempt him here.
Syrianos has extensive contacts throughout Europe, North and South America and Asia Pacific; he specialises in sourcing young talent for development.
Strummer on LTLF describes his approach as methodical and not rushed.
Judging by that I doubt if he will have much involvement in our summer acquisitions, unless we manage to sign a player or two who Stuttgart had their sights on.
Syrianos has extensive contacts throughout Europe, North and South America and Asia Pacific; he specialises in sourcing young talent for development.
Strummer on LTLF describes his approach as methodical and not rushed.
Judging by that I doubt if he will have much involvement in our summer acquisitions, unless we manage to sign a player or two who Stuttgart had their sights on.
So he's even in their journey from top end of the Bundesliga, relegated and back up again to about half way.
Can't remember the exact year. Bobic was a class player. Top striker but saw him play once at libero. Completely domianted defensively and was pinging around 60 yard pinpoint passes, which I'm sure 95%+ strikers couldn't manage.
mao tse tung
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Another new appointment on the way; Sam Gordon's old position of Chief Financial Officer is close to being filled.
Calvin Plummer
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Lol if you think staristical analysis isn't a useful tool you live in the dark ages, but it is just a tool.
radfordinlondon
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I'll probably nevr lean
radfordinlondon
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No but i was having a little tinker that NONE of you had the courtesy to point out
radfordinlondon
Vital Football Legend
Absolutely, im posive that staristical analysis is useful. As is cotext.
mao tse tung
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Sigh!
Who said statistical analysis is not useful?
I was being quite specific.
Give an idiot numbers to play around with and you end up with meaningless shite like this:
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