Vital Forest - Mental/Physical Wellbeing Groupchat

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Following on from random discussion in another thread

This thread is where posters can talk about mental and physical wellbeing stuff on here with their fellow Forest fans without the aggro of football or political stuff causing arguments etc

Maybe somewhere to clock in when you've had a good day for others to learn from or a bad day when you need others to cheer you up with something positive?

If you want to join at any stage then maybe start by saying a bit about your current life situation and positives and negatives you face. But you don't have to of course. Just listen to others instead if you don't want to discuss your own personal stuff

Just use the thread if you want to and it helps you in any way hearing about others experiences

Maybe okd can make it a sticky thread if enough people are using it next few weeks?

Hopefully it becomes a positive place to chat away from football
 
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I will start

I'm mid 50s, happily married with grown up kids.

Feel reasonably fit and healthy. But every day trying to improve. I'm one of those whose always looking at youtube and similar for ideas of what to do to improve

I particularly follow David Goggins and Jesse Itzler instagram for ideas and motivation. I've narrowed those guys down as being the real deal. Doing things I can learn from in totally different ways.

Ive dabbled with Robin Sharma 5am club as well

But although i can be disciplined to do all the things i aim to do some days. Im not consistent enough to do it EVERY day. So i have great days and shite days. But always start the day with good intentions!!

The shite days normally involve too much social media etc and places like this!

I get to the gym a couple of times a week but want to do more. Train a bit at home as well. Try and get walks outside as many days as I can. Not always as far as I like due to not enough time in the day. Or probably more like I've wasted too much time and not been disciplined and focussed enough. Maybe get the odd bike ride in as well. Nothing challenging though. And not often enough.

Trying to drink water all the time and avoiding fizzy drinks. Will drink wine or a nice cocktail but only with a nice meal outside of the house. Im a sugarholic so always battling to limit sweets and chocolate but find it hard to resist. Always have to have dessert when we eat out! And love to eat out!

Normally on some kind of intermittent fast apart from cheat days or weekends !! Lol

I've got my own business that takes up about half the day each day managing from a laptop or phone

I've worked hard in recent years so I can manage the business remotely as I want to travel as much as I can whilst I am healthy and fit enough to make the most of the world and so I like to plan longer holidays now where I work in the mornings and then holiday and explore in the afternoon and evenings. This works for my wife as well who helps in the business

I'm someone who plans routines and schedules to the nth degree but then struggles to stick with them and find it hard to avoid distractions. Probably spend as much time planning as doing some days. Planning is definitely a form of procrastination for me

I'm better than I've ever been now in terms of lifestyle I think but loads of room for improvement still

Anyway that's me. Hopefully I can get some tips fron some of you guys in this thread and maybe in time some of the things that have worked for me could help others as well

Now I've said all that please don't leave me in the thread on my own !! Lol
 
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And today I've had an average day. Hoping for a great day tomorrow starting with a 5am start!! To get loads done early including the gym to then allow a good afternoon enjoying the outdoors a bit whilst the weather is decent.

Fingers crossed i make it all happen!
 
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I'm quite overweight at the moment and trying to shed some.
I'm also extremely unfit from 9 months or so completely unable to do anything approaching exercise so I have to be pretty careful with what I do. My dialysis treatment also sucks all the water out of my blood, lowering my blood pressure, and I'm only allowed to drink 800ml of fluid per day, so although I love going for long walks I have to be really damn careful when the sun is out or I'll pass out from low blood pressure due to dehydrated blood.
Its a right tightrope to walk!
At the moment I'm so unfit that taking a rapid walk up a big hill & back will knacker me out for a good 20 minutes after I've stopped but I'm trying to build up to starting cycling again.
Once I can do the 6 mile bike to work I'll be golden, but I would imagine its going to take quite a long time building up to that.

All of this is noticeably helping my mental health too (most of the time at least). Time away from the computer is way more necessary now my work involves mostly staring at screens.
 
Posted on the match thread, but I'll add that I'm now overweight (after all those years being skinny), and can't run very far without getting out of breath, but at 72 I'm not so bothered by this.

Don't really go for the 'mental health' angle as it seems like labelling to get sympathy, but I did notice during covid lockdowns that I felt quite isolated and depressed. My mum had died at 93 just before covid erupted, and I kept worrying I was about to die. My ex was great, dragging me out for walks.

Now I'm resigned to being an old curmudgeon who sometimes drinks too much. Having a mate who's got me into VR golf ensures that we waste weekday afternoons productively - today at East Lake he was +22 and I managed +29, but we have performed better than that.
 
I'm quite overweight at the moment and trying to shed some.
I'm also extremely unfit from 9 months or so completely unable to do anything approaching exercise so I have to be pretty careful with what I do. My dialysis treatment also sucks all the water out of my blood, lowering my blood pressure, and I'm only allowed to drink 800ml of fluid per day, so although I love going for long walks I have to be really damn careful when the sun is out or I'll pass out from low blood pressure due to dehydrated blood.
Its a right tightrope to walk!
At the moment I'm so unfit that taking a rapid walk up a big hill & back will knacker me out for a good 20 minutes after I've stopped but I'm trying to build up to starting cycling again.
Once I can do the 6 mile bike to work I'll be golden, but I would imagine its going to take quite a long time building up to that.

All of this is noticeably helping my mental health too (most of the time at least). Time away from the computer is way more necessary now my work involves mostly staring at screens.
Jock do you have an exercise bike at home you could use to build up your strength and stamina to start cycling to work again?
 
Don't really go for the 'mental health' angle as it seems like labelling to get sympathy
What surprises me though is the number of people you think would be happy and living a great life who behind the scenes genuinely do have serious mental health issues or problems

Successful sportsmen and celebrities who many would at first glance want to swap places with

When you see Tyson Fury talk openly about his problems (and being scared to even go outside) just after becoming world heavyweight boxing champion

And feeling no happiness in what he had achieved and wanting to kill himself etc

It shows anybody can be vulnerable at any time

And I think suicide is biggest killer of males in UK under the age of 45?

You never really know what's going on inside other people's heads
 
Jock do you have an exercise bike at home you could use to build up your strength and stamina to start cycling to work again?
I don't at the moment.
I'm keeping my eye out but I'm trying to survive on about 850-900 quid a month at the moment so purchases like that are out! Its a complicated and fluid situation but an exercise bike is indeed pretty much top of my list for when i have money. I won't go to the gym cos I'm crazy self conscious about my weight so it will need to happen at some point.
Its all good though.
The way I see it, for as long as fast walking gets me out of breath and makes my legs hurt, I'm getting fitter from doing it. Once it stops being effective I'll need to move on to something more strenuous.
 
I'm also overweight I put quite a bit on while I was on hormone injections following my radio therapy for prostate cancer now finding it difficult to shift even though I cycle 4miles a day & don't overeat. I also suffer from a dodgy liver can't remember what they call it but probably caused by being quite heavily medicated for blood pressure & rheumatoid arthritis.

I'm nearly 75 & even though my medical history would suggest otherwise I actually feel OK & generally enjoy life fortunate to have a good occupational pension which allows us to lead a comfortable life & can usually manage to do everything I want or need to do these days.

I consider myself lucky to have got this far as my mum died young & my dad in his 60's & grandparents didn't live to a really old age, but the lots of people of their generation didn't, as all the male members of the family had hard lives down the pit.

We left Nottinghamshire when I was little for a new life at the seaside where I've been ever since & wouldn't change that. I do suffer a bit from anxiety which is probably borne out of my health issues as it naturally get worse as my 6 monthly PSA tests & reviews come round, fortunately I've just had the latest so that's gone for a bit now.

On the plus side I've just booked in the "Trentside Lounge" v West Ham (hope Mao doesn't tell me off for being a mug) for my annual pilgrimage to the WFCG with my son, grandson, his partner & my son in law. It's an expensive day out & I'll have to hide the credit card statement from my wife, but better spent on enjoyment than let the Government get their hands on it eventually
 
I'm also overweight I put quite a bit on while I was on hormone injections following my radio therapy for prostate cancer now finding it difficult to shift even though I cycle 4miles a day & don't overeat. I also suffer from a dodgy liver can't remember what they call it but probably caused by being quite heavily medicated for blood pressure & rheumatoid arthritis.

I'm nearly 75 & even though my medical history would suggest otherwise I actually feel OK & generally enjoy life fortunate to have a good occupational pension which allows us to lead a comfortable life & can usually manage to do everything I want or need to do these days.

I consider myself lucky to have got this far as my mum died young & my dad in his 60's & grandparents didn't live to a really old age, but the lots of people of their generation didn't, as all the male members of the family had hard lives down the pit.

We left Nottinghamshire when I was little for a new life at the seaside where I've been ever since & wouldn't change that. I do suffer a bit from anxiety which is probably borne out of my health issues as it naturally get worse as my 6 monthly PSA tests & reviews come round, fortunately I've just had the latest so that's gone for a bit now.

On the plus side I've just booked in the "Trentside Lounge" v West Ham (hope Mao doesn't tell me off for being a mug) for my annual pilgrimage to the WFCG with my son, grandson, his partner & my son in law. It's an expensive day out & I'll have to hide the credit card statement from my wife, but better spent on enjoyment than let the Government get their hands on it eventually
Do you cycle near the sea? That would be doing you so much good if so? And must be really invigorating?
 
The way I see it, for as long as fast walking gets me out of breath and makes my legs hurt, I'm getting fitter from doing it. Once it stops being effective I'll need to move on to something more strenuous.
Makes sense

Do you try and get out every day regardless of the weather?

Until now I've always used bad weather as an excuse to not get out

But I'm determined to start just getting out every day regardless of the weather and enjoy a walk wind, rain or shine
 
Do you cycle near the sea? That would be doing you so much good if so? And must be really invigorating?
Sometimes, I know this sounds a bit daft but I like to have the wind behind me on the way back which means that I normally go the other way as the prevailing wind is from SW. However now the holiday season is winding down I will probably go on the front a bit more. One of the problems of course is that the council don't clear the sand from the promenades on a regular basis out of season, which makes cycling a bit tricky

You are right though when I do go on the front & the tide is in and the waves are breaking on the sea defences I do stop & think how lucky I am to have that on the doorstep
 
Sometimes, I know this sounds a bit daft but I like to have the wind behind me on the way back which means that I normally go the other way as the prevailing wind is from SW. However now the holiday season is winding down I will probably go on the front a bit more. One of the problems of course is that the council don't clear the sand from the promenades on a regular basis out of season, which makes cycling a bit tricky

You are right though when I do go on the front & the tide is in and the waves are breaking on the sea defences I do stop & think how lucky I am to have that on the doorstep
My wife loves being near the sea she would definitely swap places with you
 
I'm early 60's and this time last year I was in a wheelchair. I had 3 covid jabs but still eventually caught it. I shook it off really quickly (I've had worse bouts of flu) but eventually and slowly but surely I lost the use of my legs. I have been diagnosed with neuropathy in the legs and my consultant said I'd better get used to it as it's irreversible. Two years on I weight train at the gym 2 or 3 times a week, have holistic massage therapy once a month and now walk using just one hiking pole. I quit drinking 2 years ago and eat clean healthy food. I haven't finished yet I intend to keep pushing on and eventually throw that damn hiking pole in the bin. Depression hit me hard as I couldn't stand up let alone walk and had to finish work through ill health but I motivated myself with books and videos and some pure grit and determination. My message to anyone struggling is just a simple keep blasting even if you feel you're not getting anywhere because others will see a difference in you even if you don't. After a lifetime of martial arts training my mindset what pretty strong anyway. The teachings of Bruce Lee helped me enormously and right now I'm doing natural bodybuilding in my 60s. Fuck it. If it kills you it kills you!. Walk on chaps, walk on!
 
Not sure where to start to be honest.

I'm early 40s, in education. I teach only a little bit now as I'm a bit more senior. Not exactly headteacher level but to the side of that. My job is a lot more stationary than it used to be and involves a lot of car travelling. So I don't get as many steps in as I used to. However, my job now is significantly less stressful than when I was senior in a single school.

I have a son who has severe autism and ADHD. He is hypo sensitive, which means that he is sensation seeking. He doesn't need headphones because of sensitivity to noise, he makes noise, lots of it. Everywhere. He also seeks touch so is very rough. His ADHD makes him very impulsive. We are talking ripping all the wallpaper off the walls, running towards us with knives kind of impulsive when he was younger. Meds have helped. He goes to a fantastic special school.

This sounds bad, but he is a wonderful, hilarious and kind hearted. He absolutely loves his family, he makes everyone laugh. He and his sister have an amazing relationship, even though she is classed as a young carer for him. I love that kid with all my heart.

But he has severe learning disabilities as well. He has just, this month, finally got out of nappies in the daytime at the age of nine. This is a triumph akin to winning a Nobel Prize in our family. He has no sense of danger, would run away or into traffic if given the chance, so he has to wear reigns whenever we go out. We get comments about him being a dog for that. Fuck them.

We will have to look after him for the rest of our lives. He will never work, live independently. He'll likely never fall in love, get married or lead a "normal" life. He will always be with us. When I retire, it won't be to holidays in Spain or world cruises, or to living by the sea. It will be to becoming a carer full time. And as we get older, he gets bigger and stronger. Our son at 16 or 18 is a worry. He is already strong enough that my wife can't move him. It's hard to think that there isn't sunset uplands to look forward to in old age. I haven't started to worry yet how we'll look after him when we are really old. I haven't even started worrying who will look after him when we are gone. Thats in the post.

My daughter is also autistic but far more mild. She is just becoming a teenager. She will be ok. She has a very limited diet, probably has a condition called Arfid. We have a great relationship and she is fantastic with her brother. But she knows she's different from other girls at school. She struggles socially. She is finding herself at the moment a bit, and I'm all for that.

My wife is also autistic, diagnosed as an adult. It's a familiar story- autistic kid makes you question your own life. We have a fantastic relationship after 21 years together. But she does get overwhelmed sometimes. Some stats suggest the divorce rate for SEN parents like us is 80% if you have one SEN child, so I guess we are doing ok.

I was recently diagnosed with ADHD. It makes me come across quite manic at times. I can't do anything fiddly- I couldn't be an electrician for instance, although I know lots of electricians who have ADHD but a different profile to me. I'm awful at DIY because I just want it done. I don't have the patience. I move everywhere really fast- if I have to slow down it's like my brain is screaming. If someone is standing in my way, the same. In conversation I'll jump from one thing to another. If I go somewhere, even if it's somewhere I've been really looking forward to going/doing, as soon as I'm there my brain will want to leave to get into the next thing.

Best way to describe it is using the "channel up" button on a remote control every few seconds. My brain is like that. It keeps flicking up through channels. Each one might (or might not) have some vague relation to the last.

I'm lucky. For some it is absolutely debilitating. For me it's both the best and worst of me. There is no middle ground me. All the successes I've had in my career and with my family have been due to ADHD traits. It's made me a great teacher. But it's a nightmare with marking.

I also have something called Generalised Anxiety disorder. it's the pits. Basically severe anxiety. If you have this, you are always anxious. Always. Non stop. Can be anything. Maybe there is a leaky pipe somewhere?. Have I really done my taxes? That little thing at work. Where am I going to park? What if I forgot about a bank account in overdraft 15 years ago and now owe tens of thousands? My health. Did I leave the water on?

It's endless. I'm almost never not anxious about something. My ADHD brain will get into circular thinking that catastrophises everything. I end up in the middle of the night checking that I did insure the house, or that I did send that email in November of last year. I can't stop it. I'm far worse when I'm on holiday from work so my mind is less busy- in the holidays it gets out of control completely and I really feel sorry for Mrs Pope. It's exhausting for her but she has no real idea of the actual extent of it because I have to keep most of it hidden. This is an inheritance from my mother, who is probably worse than I am. It's definitely got a lot worse as I got older.

I am happy in life and have no desire to meet my maker whatsoever. But I do think sometimes that when I eventually do, at least it will release me from the anxiety. I reckon a few people on here who have experienced depression will probably recognise that.