Victorian Ailments Return As Britain's Children Become Malnourished

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Poverty is forcing people to have dangerously poor diets and is leading to the return of rickets and gout – diseases of the Victorian age that affect bones and joints – according the UK Faculty of Public Health.

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/aug/30/child-poverty-link-malnutrition-rickets
 
I agree that cooking is an important skill to have, it says in the article that a lot of families are so poor that they can't afford the electricity or gas to cook the food.

The UK has 3.8 million children in extreme poverty. It's a national disgrace.
 
BodyButter - 31/8/2014 03:29

I agree that cooking is an important skill to have, it says in the article that a lot of families are so poor that they can't afford the electricity or gas to cook the food.

The UK has 3.8 million children in extreme poverty. It's a national disgrace.
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Pre payments meters (they don't cost more than normal bills anymore now) mean they can budget for and not have big bills each quarter.

I would want to see their budget sheets and household bills before I believed it. Been there and struggled with bills. Who hasn't. Still can if an unexpected 1 comes up, though do have a bit tucked away. I hate using it though.

It's about knowing how to budget and prep meals. That's why so many struggle, as they don't.


I have always said cooking skills should be part of the mandatory PSE in school. People need to know how to cook. It is the most important part of our lives. People need to be taught to cook properly to live
 
Well, according to the BBC this morning kids are so obese that they will be the first generation that will die at a younger age than their parents.

So two totally contradictory articles on the same day.

Personally I wouldn't believe anything I read in the Guardian. Not that the BBC is much better these days.
 
If this is true it has nothing to do with the lack of funds provided and everything to do with the Jeremy Kyle generation. The British welfare state is the envy of most of the world with only Norway and Sweden in Europe offering anything comparrable/better. Perhaps a realocation of funds is in order, what with a significant number not being able to prioritise what they spend their benefit payments on. Might I suggest a return to a fully funded, nutricianally balanced school dinner regime?

 
Villan Of The North - 31/8/2014 16:19

If this is true it has nothing to do with the lack of funds provided and everything to do with the Jeremy Kyle generation. The British welfare state is the envy of most of the world with only Norway and Sweden in Europe offering anything comparrable/better. Perhaps a realocation of funds is in order, what with a significant number not being able to prioritise what they spend their benefit payments on. Might I suggest a return to a fully funded, nutricianally balanced school dinner regime?
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Yes but not like the schools, dinners I had at my school growing up in the 60's/70's They were vile.

I remember begging my Mom to let me come home for lunch when I was in the seniors as the meals were revolting. The majority of my friends did the same too
 
I wonder if Jamie Oliver had any impact on school dinners. I really hope so but I fear they are back to deep frying smiley faces at the behest of big business.
 
It has nothing to do with poverty. You dont get poverty in the UK - you get laziness, stupidity but certainly not poverty. I dont see many kids in the UK working in rubbish tips aged 4 years old, or walking to the local river to collect water. Our food banks are to die for, our hospitals take anybody in, our benefits system is far to generous and you can buy fresh veg from Aldi and Lidl now for pence and not pounds.

If kids are not fed right blame the system & the education.

And like Pride says above - "some" parents would rather spend their benefits on a packet of fags.

All the kids coming over in closed containers looking for a better life, is what you call poverty. But once you get onto the shores of the UK - if you have done your homework(got the education), there are more than enough places to get by & plenty of help without starving, or becoming malnourished.
 
Jonah - 31/8/2014 13:17

Well, according to the BBC this morning kids are so obese that they will be the first generation that will die at a younger age than their parents.

So two totally contradictory articles on the same day.
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I've been banging this drum for some time, the body needs nutrients not just "food" it matters what the food is, it really matters.

The BBC was reporting on a well researched scientific study from a few years back, I remember reading about it on this very site.

The article in the Guardian mentions obesity as part of the problem, the low nutrient content means the body is still hungry, so more junk is consumed, again failing to supply the necessary nutrients and so on, so you get obese AND suffer from malnutrition/vitamin deficiency at the same time.

It would obviously help if children were taught these absolutely essential life skills at school, so when they become parents at 14/15 or whatever age, at least they'll know how to look after a child, instead of stunting their growth and poisoning them.



 
Green Tea - 1/9/2014 06:19

It has nothing to do with poverty. You dont get poverty in the UK - you get laziness, stupidity but certainly not poverty.
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So all the studies in that area that state that there is poverty in the UK are lying?

I dont see many kids in the UK working in rubbish tips aged 4 years old, or walking to the local river to collect water.
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So you define poverty by what children do in other countries.

Having access to a tap doesn't mean you have access to food, our rubbish tips are closed compounds, if you believe we don't use cheap child labour in this country you are mistaken.

Our food banks are to die for,
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If you know where they are, if there is one in your area, if your parents are "with it" enough to make that journey and get the supplies.

our hospitals take anybody in, our benefits system is far to generous
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To immigrants maybe, there are many who have fought for YEARS to get the money they are entitled to, while living on charity and I can state that as fact.

and you can buy fresh veg from Aldi and Lidl now for pence and not pounds.
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Then you need something to cook them in, something to cook them on etc.

If kids are not fed right blame the system & the education.
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I do, along with blaming the parents, who when they start down the path of parenthood take on that responsibility.

And like Pride says above - "some" parents would rather spend their benefits on a packet of fags.
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Yes, the consumption of a highly addictive drug has been allowed to flourish, while other less addictive, non addictive, and even beneficial drugs have been criminalised.

All the kids coming over in closed containers looking for a better life, is what you call poverty. But once you get onto the shores of the UK - if you have done your homework(got the education), there are more than enough places to get by & plenty of help without starving, or becoming malnourished.
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As an immigrant, illegal or not, you get plenty of help, they are an area that has been acknowledged and accepted by our government, whereas the poverty in this country is brushed under the carpet.

All you've managed to do with your post is prove to many just how far away from reality you live.



 
Green Tea - 1/9/2014 06:19


If kids are not fed right blame the system & the education.

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Nothing to do with the system (unless they haven't sorted the parents benefits out. Usually that is the case when people sign on or go on the sick as it takes ages to sort them, in some cases, or whilst appeals go through etc.)

Nor is it to do with education.

It is the parents who are responsible for how their children eat and how they are bought up with food. It is the parents who are responsible for teaching there children how to cook, properly and how to do it on on a tiny budget when necessary.

I was bought up helping Mom in the kitchen and enjoying it too. My four were also bought up the same, enjoying being in the kitchen with me, learning how to cook and have fun with food at the same time.

Even at a very young age, they can mix a bowl or pour ingredients into a bowl. Food is the most important life experience and most needed fact of life to live that is needed. It is also fun, if you make it that way.

Yes food today has obviously got healthier as the years have progressed, with what is available and more knowledge being known. It has also gone to the other extreme with too much processed food around to readily available.

You can buy pasta and rice, for instance at pence prices today as well as many other ingredients. Go in supermarkets at the end of day when they selling food off etc. However there is absolutely no need for any child not to be fed properly.

There to me the buck stops with the parents as to what a child eats and how/what they learn about food.
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