Vehicle Tax Reminder.

col8

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Thousands of motorists have been fined and had their cars clamped by the DVLA after unwittingly falling foul of changes to tax rules, it was reported.

Drivers have been caught out by new regulations over used car sales, under which a vehicle's tax is automatically cancelled when it is sold, even if it has an in-date tax disc.

The Guardian found that clampings by the DVLA have rocketed since paper vehicle excise duty (VED) discs were phased out in October.

Before the changes the DVLA clamped about 5,000 vehicles a month, the newspaper said, but this has surged to more than 8,000, with motorists finding their cars have been towed away without any warning from the government agency.

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Most drivers know that tax discs are no longer required to be displayed in car windows. But many are unaware that VED is cancelled automatically if a car changes ownership, even if there is a valid disc.

While those selling used cars may have previously advertised that a vehicle had tax and an MOT until a certain date, now the tax expires automatically when it is sold, even if it has many months left.

New owners have to tax it again, and many are being caught out and being left with hefty fines.

One couple, Christopher and Marianna Webb from Dorset, told the Guardian that they returned from holiday to find their car had been towed from where they had left it in Battersea, London, and was being stored in a pound for non-payment of car tax - despite it displaying a valid disc.

They ended up having to pay £822 to the DVLA to get it back.

Another motorist told the newspaper that a car he was given by an emigrating relative was clamped, despite it having a valid tax disc on the windscreen.

He had to pay £650 in fines and charges to the DVLA.

A DVLA spokesman said: "We continue to operate a comprehensive package of measures which make vehicle tax easy to pay but hard to avoid.

"We know that the vast majority of motorists continue to tax their vehicles on time with over 23 million drivers taxing their vehicles since October 1 2014.

"The changes have been widely publicised and we write to every vehicle keeper to remind them of the new rules before the vehicle tax expires.

"We also write to every new vehicle keeper when they buy a used vehicle to inform them that they must tax the vehicle before they use it.

"In addition, if a driver does not tax their car we will send a warning letter to remind them to tax as they are at risk of enforcement action."
 
I have been driving around for 2 days without road tax. Well, I had it but it was in my office and not in my car. I put it in my car just now. Gangsta!
 
It does mean now that the number of vehicles for sale on the side of the road will be reduced, only those cars currently owned and taxed for sale by the owners will legally be able to park on the road.

Garages who used to park loads of taxed cars on the road will now be parking them Illegally.............

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HeathfieldRoad1874 - 16/4/2015 19:35

BodyButter - 16/4/2015 10:21

Are they refunding the unused portion of the tax to the previous owner?

Nope. They just keep it!!! Lovely, isn't it.

That's a disgrace. You are taxing the car, not the owner. Once the tax has been paid, it should be valid.

Fucking Tory, money-grabbing, double-taxing, cheating, scummy, lying, bastards.
 
BodyButter - 16/4/2015 10:39

HeathfieldRoad1874 - 16/4/2015 19:35

BodyButter - 16/4/2015 10:21

Are they refunding the unused portion of the tax to the previous owner?

Nope. They just keep it!!! Lovely, isn't it.

That's a disgrace. You are taxing the car, not the owner. Once the tax has been paid, it should be valid.

Fucking Tory, money-grabbing, double-taxing, cheating, scummy, lying, bastards.

Calm down dear - the owner gets the refund!
 
Cheshire Villan - 16/4/2015 10:36

HeathfieldRoad1874 - 16/4/2015 10:35

BodyButter - 16/4/2015 10:21

Are they refunding the unused portion of the tax to the previous owner?

Nope. They just keep it!!! Lovely, isn't it.

The owner of the car gets the refund when they sell.

Sorry, I should have been clearer, they keep some of it. I can't remember how, but they now retain more of the money. My brain doesn't work very well at the moment I'm afraid, but there is definitely something that has changed.
 
Cheshire Villan - 16/4/2015 19:40

BodyButter - 16/4/2015 10:39

HeathfieldRoad1874 - 16/4/2015 19:35

BodyButter - 16/4/2015 10:21

Are they refunding the unused portion of the tax to the previous owner?

Nope. They just keep it!!! Lovely, isn't it.

That's a disgrace. You are taxing the car, not the owner. Once the tax has been paid, it should be valid.

Fucking Tory, money-grabbing, double-taxing, cheating, scummy, lying, bastards.

Calm down dear - the owner gets the refund!

Why don't they just leave it the way it is?

If they are refunding the money, they are making loads more work for the same money.

Fucking Tory, tax dodging, money grabbing, capitalist, fat cat, lying, cheating, stealing, scumbags.
 
HeathfieldRoad1874 - 16/4/2015 10:41

Cheshire Villan - 16/4/2015 10:36

HeathfieldRoad1874 - 16/4/2015 10:35

BodyButter - 16/4/2015 10:21

Are they refunding the unused portion of the tax to the previous owner?

Nope. They just keep it!!! Lovely, isn't it.

The owner of the car gets the refund when they sell.

Sorry, I should have been clearer, they keep some of it. I can't remember how, but they now retain more of the money. My brain doesn't work very well at the moment I'm afraid, but there is definitely something that has changed.

I sold mine in November and informed DVLA. Couple of weeks later I got a cheque for the balance. Just pro-rata'd it as far as I could see. Paid the full 12-months on the new one.
 
BodyButter - 16/4/2015 10:43

Cheshire Villan - 16/4/2015 19:40

BodyButter - 16/4/2015 10:39

HeathfieldRoad1874 - 16/4/2015 19:35

BodyButter - 16/4/2015 10:21

Are they refunding the unused portion of the tax to the previous owner?

Nope. They just keep it!!! Lovely, isn't it.

That's a disgrace. You are taxing the car, not the owner. Once the tax has been paid, it should be valid.

Fucking Tory, money-grabbing, double-taxing, cheating, scummy, lying, bastards.

Calm down dear - the owner gets the refund!

Why don't they just leave it the way it is?

If they are refunding the money, they are making loads more work for the same money.

Because if you don't tinker with stuff that works it looks like you're not doing anything!
 
Right I've remembered. The seller does indeed get a refund, for any whole months remaining.

The change comes about in that the new owner also has to pay a full months duty, whereas they would have inherited it with the car before.

For example, sell your car on the 1st of the month, then you can't get a refund for that month, and the new owner has to purchase it as well. Every time a car is sold the DVLA get 2 months of tax, unless you do it on the last day of the month at midnight!!

My apologies for any confusion!!! If you could find me a new brain, I would be eternally grateful.
 
HeathfieldRoad1874 - 16/4/2015 10:45

Right I've remembered. The seller does indeed get a refund, for any whole months remaining.

The change comes about in that the new owner also has to pay a full months duty, whereas they would have inherited it with the car before.

For example, sell your car on the 1st of the month, then you can't get a refund for that month, and the new owner has to purchase it as well. Every time a car is sold the DVLA get 2 months of tax, unless you do it on the last day of the month at midnight!!

My apologies for any confusion!!! If you could find me a new brain, I would be eternally grateful.

There has to be something in there. God forbid we might benefit!
 
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BodyButter - 16/4/2015 10:39<br /><br />
HeathfieldRoad1874 - 16/4/2015 19:35<br /><br />
BodyButter - 16/4/2015 10:21<br /><br />Are they refunding the unused portion of the tax to the previous owner?
<br /><br />Nope. They just keep it!!! Lovely, isn't it.
<br /><br />That's a disgrace. You are taxing the car, not the owner. Once the tax has been paid, it should be valid.<br /><br />Fucking Tory, money-grabbing, double-taxing, cheating, scummy, lying, bastards.
<br /><br />Well theres for and against.... <br />Why would anyone want to pay tax on a vehicle they dont own?<br />You can now pay monthly on a standing order so as to spread the cost of RFL over a year rather than a one off 6 or 12 lump payment.<br />Ensuring the NEW owner taxes the vehicle means they will HAVE to be registered as the NEW owner from day one. <br />None of this forgot to send the paperwork off for a few months.<br />It will make the systen of dealing with Parking, Speeding Offences easier to manage and it will be in the Interest of the selling party to do it on-line Immediatly.<br /><br />Its just chance thats all, I now want a guinness lable as a tax disc.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;<strong><em><font color="#ff0000">Of course the real reason is it allows the government to Install ANPR cameras everywhere without question using the &quot;Its to catch Tax Dodgers&quot; excuse. Before you know it we will be monitered on every single over bridge on the motorway, every major junction, round-a-bout and 99.9% of shopping/parking areas.</font></em></strong><br /><br /></p>
 
That makes sense, col, and I agree that it is best to have the correct information as soon as possible. However, in today's computerised world, they could easily do a refund/new tax based on a daily basis, not monthly.

It's just another way of sneaking more money from us all. I have no objection to taxes on the whole, but I do think they should be honest and above board.
 
I think the current system is transferable, so if your paying direct debit you literally transfer the direct bedit over to the new car and they adjust the difference automatically.
 
https://www.vehicleenquiry.service.gov.uk/

The Above link is to check the vehicle tax details