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Vaccine Passports (n/g at the moment)

RotherhitheGill

RotherhitheGill

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Anyone have any idea what’s going on?

Pubs and restaurants with outdoor facilities will be opening on the 12th April (yes just over a week away:wahey:) and its now being rumored that some sort of passport might be needed.

There’s talk about apps on smart phones, providing copies of vaccine cards, proof of a recent test.

Johnson says he’s “thinking about it”, well he’s not had much time to pre-empt this problem has he?

Is it going to be another Track and Trace fiasco?
On this particular subject, we do need clarification and quickly.:cheers:
 
RotherhitheGill said:
Is it going to be another Track and Trace fiasco?
On this particular subject, we do need clarification and quickly.:cheers:
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Track and Trace on a voluntary basis was never going to work, as it leads to self isolation, even if you get mild symptoms, and people are not going to want to lose out on work/pay.

Many people, including me, do not own a smart phone and we are not being offered one, so all that happened last year was that hospitality venues ended up with lots of useless lists.

Not sure in what form Vaccine cards or passports could be produced but if the vaccine rollout continues apace, the danger of serious illness and death is so vastly reduced that it may not be cost effective.

The two remaining issues are control of the variants and the small percentage of the population that will not or can not take the vaccine, or for whom it is not effective.

Otherwise, I think the instruction should be go back to your normal life, but be aware that the disease has not gone away whenever they consider close contact or hugging. Also, continue to wear a mask and/or social distance where it is easy to do so.
 
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From what I understand, they will want you to scan in on the QR code.
That's everybody, not just the person buying drinks.
Then it's much quicker to trace any outbreak.
 
Thanks for that GBN, but what's the position for Monday 12th, can I get a drink outside without having a smart phone app?

I've got a Injection 1 card, but will that do?

Once again guidance is either non -existent or confused.

We have seen the news on TV today and the representative of the hospitality industry said: no firm advice had been forthcoming.

Loads of people either scanning in or signing a "hospitality register" is going to to an administrative nightmare.
 
LockdownLife said:
Last I read on the matter they said vaccine passports wouldn't be a thing internally in the UK until everyone has been offered the jab. Has that changed?
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In my opinion this is the major issue. At 45 years old I haven’t been offered the jab yet. Nor has my mate at 39. Therefore does this mean we can’t walk down the local, buy a drink and sit outside on the sea wall? I’m not sure that will work.

Also, many of the people that will want to begin meeting and socialising outside will be in their 20s and 30s. Christ knows when they will get offered jabs.

I have no objection with restricting entry to some places (football, cinemas, theatres, etc) unless proof of vaccination is shown though. But I do think all must be offered a vaccine before this is enforced. A pub, when you gotta sit outside anyway? Nah.
 
So what happens on the 12th. The last missive I saw from Johnson was that it would be left to individual Landlords. Great.

If I were an insurer for a hospitality outlet, I for sure would be saying: "check ALL your customers, if you are forced to close due to a Covid outbreak at you establishment you invalidate your insurance and we will not be paying out".

Johnson's got to get a hold of this and quick.
 
There’s no vaccine passport at the moment, but the track and trace info will return. From 12th April you check-in using the NHS App or supply your contact details otherwise. It’ll be like when they last opened.

I believe the rumours of a vaccine passport are simply to encourage as many people as possible to get the vaccine. I don’t think the next stage of vaccinations will be everyone else, they’ll hold off doing kids.

The voluntary uptake will be high enough so that a good majority of this country will be vaccinated, and the NHS wouldn’t be overburdened any more. There’ll be no need IMO.

Going abroad may be a different matter.
 
shotshy said:
From what I understand, they will want you to scan in on the QR code.
That's everybody, not just the person buying drinks.
Then it's much quicker to trace any outbreak.
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Hang on. Do you not do QR scans already in UK? Wow.

In Aus, you scan in at any workplace, bar, club, venue etc. have done for many months.
 
OneSirKeefy said:
Hang on. Do you not do QR scans already in UK? Wow.

In Aus, you scan in at any workplace, bar, club, venue etc. have done for many months.
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It was rolled out in the summer here iirc.

However I did read the major flaw in the one here was you scanned as you entered but not as you left. Therefore if you scanned in at Costa at 8am to get a coffee, you stayed scanned in there until A- you scanned in somewhere else, or B- midnight when the system reset for the next day. No good if you popped in somewhere for 5 minutes then went home, of course.

Can’t remember where I read this though, probably on here, lol!
 
shotshy said:
From what I understand, they will want you to scan in on the QR code.
That's everybody, not just the person buying drinks.
Then it's much quicker to trace any outbreak.
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That's what was in place before and had a major flaw? Anyone want to have a guess?

You scanned IN but not OUT so unless you scanned in somewhere else you were there until midnight.

I used to take my son for a driving lesson and the we'd have a spoons breakfast after. We'd be there for an hour tops early on a Saturday. According to test and trace we were there all day.
 
Rob_b100 said:
It was rolled out in the summer here iirc.

However I did read the major flaw in the one here was you scanned as you entered but not as you left. Therefore if you scanned in at Costa at 8am to get a coffee, you stayed scanned in there until A- you scanned in somewhere else, or B- midnight when the system reset for the next day. No good if you popped in somewhere for 5 minutes then went home, of course.

Can’t remember where I read this though, probably on here, lol!
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Sounds similar to ours. You scanned in/out, but some of them auto scanned out after x hours.

Don’t think it’s really the exact times you are at a place. Just if you were there on the day you can be traced if there’s an outbreak.
 
alphabet_king said:
But surely if you left a pub 2 hours before the person who had it came in, then you don't need to be traced, surely?
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Probably not. But does it matter too much?

As I said (most) over here are scan in/out. But some, (maybe for simplicity?) are just scan in and auto out.

The couple of recent small outbreaks over here (in Melbourne and Brisbane) they’ve had a 3 day lockdown, many tests, track/traced everyone and the outbreaks have been nipped in the Bud. Hope that continues.
 
Johnson has already said it a few times. Theres a review and even if they did want to do it - no internal vaccine passport before june.

To go abroad it may actually happen similar to yellow fever or old small pox process.
 
This thread is a typical Covid over reaction, dare one say.
All that is being asked at the moment is that a person may be asked to scan in.
My missus has a shop and asked all of her customers to scan in when she was open.
Some didn’t have the app, so that was ok.
It’s just to possibly reduce a potential problem.#kneejerkbritain
 
OneSirKeefy said:
Hang on. Do you not do QR scans already in UK? Wow.

In Aus, you scan in at any workplace, bar, club, venue etc. have done for many months.
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Yes, but you've got sensible government OSK (and as your PM is right wing I'm not claiming that only lefties can have the right approach).

We've got "Operation Moonshot" whatever the f### that's supposed to be.
 
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