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ClivetheVillan - 17/8/2015 12:53

I actually like Trump tbh, he speaks his mind in this politically correct bs world some like us to live in where there is people like me that see Trump speaking how he see's things not to please others and thats why i like the bloke, he doesn't need money either so won't be paid off by the corporations, feck it go for a real change and Trump-it!

Real change would be Bernie Saunders Clive because Trump is a maniac. Trump is good for the system but it would be terrible if he got in charge. 'The Free Market' argument would tip everything even more in favour of massive corporations.

Bernie and Trump are opposite end of the spectrum, Trump would be a tip in the scale in the completely wrong direction you'd want to go. He won't be bought or controlled but neither would Bernie and this guy is all for closing the gap on the 1%.
 
PMSL the toupee jokes have creased me up tonight tbh

That Saunders bloke sounds the man, you trust him to keep his word CDX dude or?
 
ClivetheVillan - 18/8/2015 01:54

PMSL the toupee jokes have creased me up tonight tbh

That Saunders bloke sounds the man, you trust him to keep his word CDX dude or?

Can't trust any of them after Obama really with that said I still try to be optimistic in the hope that one of these guys finds a way.

With Obama its one of two things, either it was all a ploy by him and his team or the system is so fucked its almost impossible to inflict real change.

If its the latter that is worrying but there also claims that he was bought so it could be a combination of all the above. I think you'd just have to trust that he will stick what have been beliefs that he has had historically. It could be fantastic but it might not be good news for me as he isnt mad about visas particularly the one I have. My type of visa is known for being abused but it hopefully wouldnt be an issue for me mine is genuinely needed.
 
I think an awful lot of media dollars have been put behind Trump to make him look credible because when you watch his speeches that we are told are "amazing" he just rambles like a clown. As for Bernie Sanders he is barking up the wrong tree. Britain is a country that needs some Socialism because of the historic class structure we have here but America, that is no place for it and the people won't buy it.

The world will end up with Clinton in office I am sure of it. If not her then Bush. I think people like Trump and Sanders are put in to make the main contenders look measured and reasonable. Whoever gets in next over there I seriously fear for the world because I am not impressed by any of them. People won't realise what a good job Obama has done in preventing a big war breaking out until one of these cretins is in office turning the world upside down again.
 
Bikini Inspector - 15/9/2015 22:52

I think an awful lot of media dollars have been put behind Trump to make him look credible because when you watch his speeches that we are told are "amazing" he just rambles like a clown. As for Bernie Sanders he is barking up the wrong tree. Britain is a country that needs some Socialism because of the historic class structure we have here but America, that is no place for it and the people won't buy it.

The world will end up with Clinton in office I am sure of it. If not her then Bush. I think people like Trump and Sanders are put in to make the main contenders look measured and reasonable. Whoever gets in next over there I seriously fear for the world because I am not impressed by any of them. People won't realise what a good job Obama has done in preventing a big war breaking out until one of these cretins is in office turning the world upside down again.

Bernie Saunders and Rand Paul are two I cannot see going to war but the rest I can see with Clinton, Bush and Trump bring heavy into it. Trump is reckless but at least he has no corporate ties and the same for Saunders although I think his reckless moves will be economic.

Obama like GW just kept the train moving I do feel like the overbloated Government prevent him from doing what he wanted to do. He wasnt the worst president ever but he did bring in some awful policies.

Its early days but the people are buying it for now. The banks are fearful as are the corporations who bought all the other candidates except Trump and Saunders.

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NEW YORK — Wall Street is growing increasingly terrified that Donald Trump — once viewed as an amusing summertime distraction — could actually win the Republican nomination for president.
The real estate billionaire, who took another populist shot on Sunday by ripping into lavish executive pay, continues to rise in the polls. Would-be Wall Street saviors like Jeb Bush are languishing in single digits. The belief that Trump's candidacy would quickly fade is now evaporating in a wave of fear.
“I held four lunches for investors in August and at the first one everyone assumed Trump would implode,” said Byron Wien, vice chairman of Blackstone Advisory Partners and a senior figure on Wall Street. “By the fourth one everyone was taking him very seriously. He taps into frustrations that are very real and he is a master manipulator of the media.”


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/09/donald-trump-2016-wall-street-reaction-213614#ixzz3lr1Djayj
 
Interestingly, I think the US and Britain are going to end up with very similar choices; Trump (Boris) or Sanders (Corbyn). A right-wing buffoon or a socialist old man. I think the game is up for middle of the road, career politicians. People are hurting and the Blair/Cameron/Obama model of appeasing the banks and saying nice things to everyone else isn't helping.
 
Yes, was thinking this last night BodyButter (about UK politics) looks like people are fed up of middle of the road and soundbite politics. So good point re USA comparisons above as well.
 
Well when the elite have there New World Order in place we will all be hailing the same leader according to the prophet and grand philosipher guru david Icke lol
 
Watched one of the debates last week its a crazy circus. Just when you think you might have a normal candidate they say something crazy. Granted this is the republican debate which is full of those deep southern christians and middle of nowhere people.

Not sure if I ever said it on the site but I finally now understand how American can often be so pro war. I went to a rodeo in Springfield, TN and it was an experience. It was a small town and maybe it was just us but you can feel the atmosphere. There is a hint of racism and its all but confirmed when they make minor jokes like drinks like an Irish man or they read out instructions in an exaggerated chinese accent making up chinese noises.
We get to this place guy is reading a prayer and then the national anthem plays and a guy on a horse does laps around the field with an American flag. Patriotism at its core in the south.

I also learned recently from a Dan Carlin Common Sense Podcast episode that the President is usually all but confirmed by all the small population zones BEFORE they get to the major cities on the west and east. NY and California essentially dont have a say in who will be president it is decided by your middle america states. States that half of you couldnt name with even a map!

In any case Trump or Sanders if you want a ride, Clinton or Bush for more of the same. Rand Paul or Ben Carson might be the middle guys, Ben Carson seems like a decent guy when questioned but he is pro-life, doesnt really believe in evolution (if you believe wikipedia) and is against 'marijuana'. So I mean thats two red flags for me and the pro-life thing I can understand but ultimately its a womans choice in my book.
Rand Paul is interesting but one thing which worried me was that despite him being a guy who wants minimal influence overseas in terms of military activity. His final statement heavily learned on potentially using it to all its full power if America was threatened in anyway shape or form. He is pro-drug but also pro-gun however with that said American is a country with a mental health problem disguised as a gun problem.

Anyway its interesting being here and seeing it in motion. I am starting to get pretty involved in it because it seems to be the most important one ever considering how Obama didnt live up to what we thought he would be.
 
Great and interesting post CDX... interesting as you are in the middle of it now but also an outsider observing!
 
Sometime ago I watched a documentry about Trump wanting to build a golf course in Scotland. All the Scottish politians including Alex Salmond were following him around liked he was the second coming, some feted god. The local councillors had pound signs rolling round in their eyes and Trump was allowed to do what he wanted. The bulldozers moved in and were destroying what was probably one of the best landscapes anywhere in the world. There was a cottage, which I think had been in the family for generations, which Trump said was an eyesore and the golfers would not like seeing it. He wanted to buy it and demolish it. When the owner refused he bulldozed a great mound of earth to block their view. Having done all that he then decided it was'nt such a good idea having a golf course there afterall. He got on his plane and went back to America. That was it. No respect , no thought for anyone but himself.
 
The only reason I'd consider Trump is that he is the only Republican candidate that isnt bought. Thats why they're so terrified, nobody is controlling him but he'd most likely be an awful president I wouldnt vote for him.

Bernie Saunders is the only one I'd vote for but most think his economic ideas are naive and high minded. With that said he is the only one offering real change.

Just on Trump Astonian, apparently how he made is millions was by crushing numerous contracting businesses. He'd set up shell companies to build something let the contractor build to a certain point then the company would declare bankruptcy and not pay the contractor. Most contractors were mid sized to they ended up folding. Basically completely unethical behavior.
 
Went to the Golovkin fight at Madison Square on Saturday. Mr. Trump made and appearance needless to say he heavily booed when he showed on the big screen.

The crowd was heavily foreign with a decent section of latin americans and NY would be traditionally 'liberal'. So Trump running on the conservative ticket didnt help.

Found out a little more about Ben Carson. Seems a genuinely nice guy and is a neural genius. This guy freed two conjoined twins who were connected at the brain, they said it couldnt be done. This guy is neuralogical surgeon who freed them and kept them both alive. Insane stuff but whats perhaps even more crazy? The dude doesnt believe in evolution and a big christian i.e. the world was created in 6 days christian!
 
So I was thinking (always dangerous for me) what a massive cock Trump is. Even the fact he talks about himself in the 3rd party (The Fear really doesn't like people doing that) makes him a cock, let alone the garbage his mouth espouses. Even the thatched roof he appears to have on the top of his head makes him a cock, not to mention how atrocious a businessman he is and the way he bullied local residents in Scotland over his golf course makes him an even bigger cock.

BUT THEN I thought, cocks actually have a use.

So, he's not a cock then. Hmmm, so what is he?

I've came to the conclusion that Donald Trump is an appendix. It serves absolutely no purpose, it does a bad job in the body, when it starts to go wrong it becomes really irritating and after a while it leads to massive pain.

It then has to be extracted and leaves a scar.

If he gets elected, I wonder how long it will be before he has to be extracted and even more so I wonder how big a scar on the world he will leave.

Hilary Clinton? An ingrowing toenail I'd say, slightly festering and definitely infected.

There, that's the sort of thought process I have to live with 24/7... I hope this makes you feel lucky that you have the luxury to put me on ignore !