Unstable isotopes

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No need to define what an isotope is or indeed what an unstable isotope is, I'm no chemistry/physics geek but I have a reasonable basic knowledge.

My question concerns the source of unstable isotopes. As we know, nature always tries to find the balance or neutral point and the condition of unstable isotopes is no exception, an isotope is unstable because it is in imbalance. The decay of an isotope is "its attempts" (as if it can decide for itself :17: ) to attain balance of forces/energies. Given this fact, ultimately there should be no unstable isotopes at some point in the (very very very distant) future as all unstable isotope will decay (perhaps several times through several different states) into stable isotopes.

The implication of this is that the natural state (natural in terms of physics, not in terms of what actually occurs in nature) of all isotopes is stable............so where did/do the unstable isotopes come from?

Ok, so we can manufacture unstable isotopes but they are in tiny quantities compared to what is out there. And yes, I am aware that radiation from the Sun (another result of unstable isotopes) can create unstable isotopes as evidenced in analysis of moon rocks however our atmosphere and magnetic poles protect the earth from this radiation. Besides, in a way all this is doing is passing on the instability from the reactions in the Sun on to other isotopes found on, amongst other places, the Moon so all it's really doing is prolonging the process or rather extending the time frame until all isotopes are stable (I'm aware that we are talking about billions of years here)

I wonder if unstable isotopes are a left over from or even a continuation of the Big Bang (or what ever other process started the whole affair) Could they be a continuing part of the Big Bang, like a ripple effect or a process that started then but is still incomplete? When something is not in its natural state there has to be a reason for it, are unstable isotopes just a part of the creation process that is, so far, incomplete or is there some other force creating this instability, changing energy levels within atoms? Could it have anything to do with the vast unaccounted for mass and energy of the universe known as "dark"?

I have no idea but it would be interesting to read others' thoughts on this.



 
I only have a little basic knowledge of isotopes, so there is no way I would even talk more on the process and isotopes in-dept. However I read your topic with interest.

Your last paragraph really interested me. I look forward to reading what other more knowledgeable people have to say on this. The concept of what you say interests me and is worth exploring
 
Ask Clive, he'll know.

I can honestly say :16: to this thread! I can see lots of words but no matter what order I read them in, I have no clue what you are saying!

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I do know that you can't keep Pasta and Anti Pasta next to each other in case they create a Black Hole (nb not Calcutta)
 
Trekker - 18/3/2015 15:46

I do know that you can't keep Pasta and Anti Pasta next to each other in case they create a Black Hole (nb not Calcutta)

:19: :19: :19: :1: :1: :1: PMSL



 
I thought the Isotopes were a baseball team in Springfield. Didn't Homer used to be their mascot or something?

Apart from that I'm in Fear's camp. I don't have a fecking clue what you are talking about.
 
Trekker - 18/3/2015 14:46

I do know that you can't keep Pasta and Anti Pasta next to each other in case they create a Black Hole (nb not Calcutta)

Isn't it Antipasto?

No that I'm one to split atoms....
 
DeanoVilla - 18/3/2015 15:55

And no, that whole post was not just a cheap shot so I could get to write " Fear's camp "

But that doesn't mean that he's not.

 
A quick serious addition to my initial post before returning to the mayhem that is Vital Villa. :17:

I'm aware of C14 being produced from the Sun's radiation on nitrogen, so to clarify, I know that some new unstable isotopes are produced all the time, giving us the possibility to radiometrically date substances, but this radiation from the Sun is a direct result if the decay of unstable isotopes, so theoretically at least, at some point we will run out of unsrable isotopes.......mind you, at that point we will have no stars either sooooooooooo...............lol



 
The Fear - 18/3/2015 16:21

DeanoVilla - 18/3/2015 14:54

I'm in Fear's camp.

Random quotes I think!

this thread isn't going as VotN anticipated me thinks!


I think you may have forgoten the commer in Deano's post, it should be, "I'm in, Fear's camp."

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I haven't a clue what isotopes are. I could Google them but they don't sound that interesting. Are they in Lucozade Sport?
 
BodyButter - 18/3/2015 16:22

I haven't a clue what isotopes are. I could Google them but they don't sound that interesting. Are they in Lucozade Sport?

Hmm they could be. Any thoughts VOTN? :15: :19: :15:
 
I absolutely guarantee that there are isotopes in Lucozade Sport :17:

 
BBJ - 18/3/2015 17:55

Have you done your home teaching this month, Ian?

So you're thinking I have too much time on my hands John? Lol

 
Oh I don't know, I think your drunken musings might prove to be quite amusing :17: