Trump ...

Got to say ......... you make me thankful we've got BJ in charge.

You utter, utter arse.
 
Of course it won't, but that interview at the NABJ 24 conference should mean that anyone who cares about Trump should stop him going in front of a camera ever again ... and it goes without saying, pull him out of the presidential race.

If it's jail-time they're worried about, I'm sure they can get him declared unfit to stand trial (hell, he's unfit to stand for milk monitor!) but he's doing absolutely no-one any good right now.

The Republican party have an opportunity ... but are they brave enough to take it? Doubtful.
 
moonay said:
Of course it won't, but that interview at the NABJ 24 conference should mean that anyone who cares about Trump should stop him going in front of a camera ever again ... and it goes without saying, pull him out of the presidential race.

If it's jail-time they're worried about, I'm sure they can get him declared unfit to stand trial (hell, he's unfit to stand for milk monitor!) but he's doing absolutely no-one any good right now.

The Republican party have an opportunity ... but are they brave enough to take it? Doubtful.
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Pointless even saying this. Trump being allowed to carry on running in the first place, let alone winning the Presidency, after all the insane shit he came out with is actually crazy.

We'll just have to keep accepting that a good 40% of the country or so have lost their minds.
 
I’ve no need. You do plenty.

I guess that’s why there are Primaries in the US. There is no way Harris would ever have made it onto the nomination, no way whatsoever. The woman is not Presidential material, she hasn’t got a clue on anything. Can you imagine her as Commander in Chief? A frightening prospect for the world.

Having watched and listened to her in recent weeks, I’ve come to the conclusion a Trump victory would be the least disastrous outcome.
 
Made in Wigan said:
.... a Trump victory would be the least disastrous outcome.
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Amongst lots of strong competition, that is very possibly the most stupid comment ever to be posted on this board.

I get that we have political differences, but if you can't see Trump for what he is, then I really, really feel sorry for you.
 
Oh I can see just fine. I just don’t want the below. If you want a complete half wit who can’t answer a question or string a sentence together running the free world given the current geo political tensions with Russia, China, Iran and North Korea then that’s your prerogative, but I won’t get personal because of it. You need someone with gravitas, not some lightweight who’ll be ignored and trodden all over, so it’s better the devil you know in my book.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1850223280654803126
 
Trump's response would no doubt include stuff about sharks Vs electricity, whales, dead birds, kids forcibly having gender changing ops, migrant scum, Alfonse Capone and not being weird.

There's a clip or two of most politicians offering poor responses to questions ... for Trump however, there are literally hundreds showing him to be a caustic mix of dumb, dangerous and shit scared he's going to (rightly) end up in jail.

I've not got personal about it with you ... I'm just amazed that you think Trump is a suitable candidate for anything. I get that you like liars (ah, the days of BJ) but Trump isn't a sane pick for anyone with an iota of intelligence or dignity.
 
You keep making the same mistake. I’m not saying Trump is a suitable candidate, I’m saying he is the least worst candidate.

The Democrats fucked up. They knew Biden was a one term hit and thought Harris could seamlessly step in. Her performance as VP made them realise she was utterly hopeless. So they left him in place and carried on the charade he was cognitively fit. He wasn’t and everyone knew it. Once they knew they couldn’t keep up the lie they had no choice but to pull the plug and put this incompetent forward.

They talk about democracy being at risk but they subverted it themselves by not having a Primacy and this is the result. Their campaign is all about Trump, which is the same trap you have also fallen into. It is not about what they can put forward to the country. Reality has bitten as no one is buying it anymore and they are left with this empty vessel who can’t even answer the most basic of questions. Trump did 3 hours on the Rogan podcast a few days ago. I’ve listen to some of it and he comes across very well. They won’t put Harris on as they know it would be a car crash. Even Democrats are now throwing in the towel with exasperation at her performances.
 
Made in Wigan said:
You keep making the same mistake. I’m not saying Trump is a suitable candidate, I’m saying he is the least worst candidate.

The Democrats fucked up. They knew Biden was a one term hit and thought Harris could seamlessly step in. Her performance as VP made them realise she was utterly hopeless. So they left him in place and carried on the charade he was cognitively fit. He wasn’t and everyone knew it. Once they knew they couldn’t keep up the lie they had no choice but to pull the plug and put this incompetent forward.

They talk about democracy being at risk but they subverted it themselves by not having a Primacy and this is the result. Their campaign is all about Trump, which is the same trap you have also fallen into. It is not about what they can put forward to the country. Reality has bitten as no one is buying it anymore and they are left with this empty vessel who can’t even answer the most basic of questions. Trump did 3 hours on the Rogan podcast a few days ago. I’ve listen to some of it and he comes across very well. They won’t put Harris on as they know it would be a car crash. Even Democrats are now throwing in the towel with exasperation at her performances.
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I'm not making the same mistake ... I'm just astounded that you think Trump to be more suitable than just about anyone else on earth. He's a lying narcissistic egomaniac who has zero morals, and would happily stamp on anyone of it helped him in any way.

Harris worked her way up to be AG of California for 6 years ... how on earth you can label her as clueless about everything or not being able to string a sentence together is just patently untrue ... as was seen during her debate with Trump (which forced Trump into running away from any more head to heads).

Oh, and sorry, but if you think he "did well" on the Rogan podcast, then you're either taking the piss, or .....well, not, there's no other alternative ... you have to be taking the piss, cos I honestly don't believe you're a moronic idiot.
 
Where have I said I think Trump is more suitable than just about anyone else on earth? You are making things up now.

“He's a lying narcissistic egomaniac who has zero morals, and would happily stamp on anyone of it helped him in any way.” I don’t necessarily disagree, but it still makes him a more suitable prospect to be the de facto leader of the free world given there is only one other alternative. Perhaps if the Democrats had been less obsessed with Trump, like yourself, and had actually put forward a semi decent candidate able to think on their feet and devise credible policies they could actually articulate they would have stood a better chance of success. Harris is not dissimilar to Starmer. Both are lawyers accustomed to asking questions but completely incapable of answering any themselves. In essence both are fucking useless as political leaders.

I’m glad you’ve listened to the Rogan podcast to form an opinion on it. I didn’t think you’d spend your time listening to Trump. I haven’t yet finished the whole three hours yet but he comes across as quite funny. Held himself well, didn’t shy away from issues. He only had to commit to an hour, but did three. There is no way Harris could handle it, her aides would be throwing in the towel. There would be no CBS editing of answers to make up for her stupidity. Even Rogan, a liberal, was impressed.
 
You didn't say that he was more suitable than anyone else on earth ... you said he's more suitable than Harris, and then you've misunderstood my comment. Basically, it's me who's saying he's less suitable than the rest of the world.

I'm gobsmacked that after agreeing what Trump is, you can still say you'd have him anywhere near the big button. To me, it's just unthinkable. As for Harris (and Starmer), as I've already mentioned, you don't get to be AG by being hopeless ... no matter how many times you watch the handful of clips where she's apparently struggled. FFS, Trump does far far worse every time he's in front of a mike.

Onto Rogan, I'll be honest, I've not watched it all, just clips ... life really is too short for the whole 3 FECKING hours !!! As I said, Trump had the option of fulfilling the 3 planned debates with Harris, but after the first, where he realised he couldn't control the environment, he's ran scared. Let's face it, Rogan laughed in Trump's face when he was trying to justify why he didn't lose the 2020 election.

I could just about understand someone being taken in by Johnson ... but being taken in by Trump is a whole new level of delusion.
 
moonay said:
You didn't say that he was more suitable than anyone else on earth ... you said he's more suitable than Harris, and then you've misunderstood my comment. Basically, it's me who's saying he's less suitable than the rest of the world.

I'm gobsmacked that after agreeing what Trump is, you can still say you'd have him anywhere near the big button. To me, it's just unthinkable. As for Harris (and Starmer), as I've already mentioned, you don't get to be AG by being hopeless ... no matter how many times you watch the handful of clips where she's apparently struggled. FFS, Trump does far far worse every time he's in front of a mike.

Onto Rogan, I'll be honest, I've not watched it all, just clips ... life really is too short for the whole 3 FECKING hours !!! As I said, Trump had the option of fulfilling the 3 planned debates with Harris, but after the first, where he realised he couldn't control the environment, he's ran scared. Let's face it, Rogan laughed in Trump's face when he was trying to justify why he didn't lose the 2020 election.

I could just about understand someone being taken in by Johnson ... but being taken in by Trump is a whole new level of delusion.
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You literally said ‘I'm just astounded that you think Trump to be more suitable than just about anyone else on earth”. The ‘you’ I can only assume was directed at myself.

Regardless, yes I’d rather him near the big button than Harris. God forbidden she’d have to make dynamic decisions in a crisis cos we’d be fucked. Trump had four years with his hand on the big button and oddly he didn’t start any war.. He met with Kim, is able to speak to Putin and isn’t in bed with the Chinese. He may well support Israel in finally dealing with the Iran conundrum and given that can has been kicked down the road for so long it’s time it was dealt. Under Harris I can genuinely see China invading Iran, NK the south and Putin going all in. These type of people smell and pray on weakness and weak is what she is.

So in short, given the choice between two piss poor candidates there is only really one credible choice.
 
Again, what I meant was that I can't believe you'd pick Trump ahead of anyone, let alone Kamala Harris... it's not a hard concept to grasp.

As for Trump, he's just as likely to nuke California as anywhere else.

I just feel sorry for the majority of Americans ... their system is worse than ours. Lost in 2020 by 10 million votes, but because of the vagaries in the way the Stated apply their own rules to allocating votes, Trump almost got in if it hadn't have been for the integrity of a small number of those willing to go against him (like Raffensperger and Pense).

What a pity McConnell lost his bollocks when it counted.
 
I can only judge the two candidates. Of the two, all things considered, he is the least worst option. Whether I would say the same against other candidates I’ve no idea cos I don’t know who they are.

The nuking California comment is just hysteria and out of the Democrats playbook. However no one is buying what you or they are flogging.

As for the rules you could say the same about our UK system. Labour won a third of the votes yet have a majority. Reform had a greater vote share than Lib Dem’s but seat numbers significantly lower. From what I’m seeing in the States it’s a pretty even split, marginally more perhaps for Harris,, but in terms of swing states they are all seemingly in favour of Trump.
 
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