Those that fail - are the most successful.

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Failure as the Single Best Marker of Human Success

The most successful among us - in any field - are those who have failed the most. And as a corollary, failing a lot is highly predictive of ultimate success and innovation - in any field. This is part of the deal of who we are - and understanding our evolutionary roots helps us get exactly why failure is ultimately (if ironically) predictive of success.

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/darwins-subterranean-world/201409/failure-the-single-best-marker-human-success?tr=HomeEssentials

The moral of the story is - cherish your failures(and those that fail around you) in life!
 
I suppose this thread is composed on the back end of the Robin Williams depression and then thus his suicide.

From what Ive read from those in depression it is the thought of themselves as a failure which hits them hard. Which is very sad..

So Ive basically composed a positive thread on failure = In that there is no such thing.
 
As the saying goes, it isn't how many times you fall, it's how many times you get back up again.
 
When your stuck in the problems, trying to survive, you don't see it like that. My ''failures'' became my springboard after we fled the ex. Those who tried to bury me (and there were many) found out they couldn't. I always came back with more grit and resolve.

Everywhere I have been, everything we have survived, every challenge has made me who I am today and my family. You know what, I wouldn't want to do it all again. I certainly didn't sign the contract for it, however it is absolutely fine with me. It has made me and mine who I/we are today.

I have learnt the most about me in failure and mistakes. No one learns in the good times. We learn through pain and mistakes, generally speaking.
 
Sorry GT - nice to see you back.

Failure is a success....

That's kind of what's wrong with the world where overpaid tossers fail but given their position they quickly get a new one. And fail again, take the compo, get a new job, fail again, take the compo and get a new one........

On a humanist level it's perfect however.

A failure isn't a failure if you learn from it, if you get back up - get back on the horse so to speak.

But mention Williams without actually understanding it wasn't his depression again and sorry I'll slam you....he had a grip on his depression - it wasn't depression.

He couldn't see a future based on what he was diagnosed with which depression or not, would've stopped him from being him.

But thankyou again for not getting it, trying to be clever, because you arent'.
 
ps GT - read real life, not creationist bullshit if you want people to take you seriously. Depression is not and never has been about failure.

Those who get it won't need an explanation - you will.
 
Failure is a success....

That's kind of what's wrong with the world
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Disagree with you there.

In an ideal world, there should be no such a thing as failure. Did you even read the link?

The monkey that grabs the branch v the monkey that didnt grab the branch. It just comes down to; he grabbed it & he didnt(maybe the one that didnt is the success?). It shouldnt be, one failed and one succeeded. The one that didnt grab it will learn a different path to the one that did grab it = who is the judge here? One learns about about the ground, whilst the other learns about the trees. Here we go lets enjoy the ride...See you later!

David Beckham cant walk into the Kings Arms and order a pint without some tosser bothering him, constantly looking at him, wanting a photo of him etc etc(how annoying)... Yet I can order a nice quiet pint without any hassle - so I win yeah? And is Mr.Beckham the failure here?

Real life? Yeah I kind of understand it..Others do struggle though.

 
I've read the article, and can't quite see the jump from failure in evolution to individual failure in life.

The first leads to death, weeding out the mutations and adaptations that don't work. This makes the remaining population stronger and better adapted. It's the engine of evolution. How does that translate to a person failing and then being successful? There is zero evidence for his theory, just a huge leap of faith that it is so.
 
Green Tea - 7/9/2014 00:25


David Beckham cant walk into the Kings Arms and order a pint without some tosser bothering him, constantly looking at him, wanting a photo of him etc etc(how annoying)... Yet I can order a nice quiet pint without any hassle - so I win yeah? And is Mr.Beckham the failure here?
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You are implying you are the failure because you aren't rich or famous? Not so.

A dichotomy for the rich and famous though, they can go anywhere in the world and some say do anything. They can't though as you point out, or not without being bothered. But it is the being botherable (not a real word!) that makes them rich and famous.

Read an interesting Clooney interview. He wasn't moaning or being poor me and more than recognised his privilege and position, but he did also seem somewhat a prisoner in his mansion and he admitted he yearned for a simple walk in Central Park.

And going along with your premise, Clooney would also be testament to it, he failed many times and nearly gave up many times.
 
mike_field - 7/9/2014 00:01

ps GT - read real life, not creationist bullshit if you want people to take you seriously. Depression is not and never has been about failure.

Those who get it won't need an explanation - you will.
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It can be a self loathing, no matter what is done it isn't good enough, people would be better off without me, so not a million miles away FOR SOME but it is far too much of a generalisation, I'm quite sure someone like Robin Williams couldn't possibly have viewed himself as a failure professionally, I suppose we don't know his views on his personal life or himself though.
 
Green Tea - 7/9/2014 00:25

Failure is a success....

That's kind of what's wrong with the world
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Disagree with you there.

In an ideal world, there should be no such a thing as failure. Did you even read the link?
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Can't agree with that. We would nothing if we didn't fail. An ideal world isn't about not failing. There would be no point in life, if it wasn't about lessons, learnings and so on.

I have always said if the world was perfect then there would be no point in the world. Ofcourse there are thousands of horrendous things that shouldn't be happening at any given time, however no one can judge what would make an ideal world and what wouldn't, because of the ramifications.

Take away all hunger, stop people being murdered and the like. What else do we take out in an ideal world.

An ideal world is about failure because that is how we learn.

This topic needs to be split up into parts, as it can not be taken as a whole topic.

My failures I suppose you could call them, I turned around and used for the good of others. Without those failures I couldn't do what I do.

Failure what is it?. It's more than just a word. Out of wrong and failure, I turned it all around. Some do, some don't.

Much vocational work, for instance, such as working with recovery is undertaken by people who have fought that path to beable to pass it on.

Failure can not be taken as a word and left at that. It involves far more than the word meaning.

It is not another play on the what is good and what is bad, in that moment. Something that seems horrendous can actually turn out for the good. Something that seems fantastic (I.E a lottery win) can turn out for the worst.

For instance, that person could do a spend spend spend as the 1st person to win the football pools big money did. She spent spent spent. her husband died in a fast car bought with pools winnings. She ended up with an alcohol problem, back in council house working back in her old job. What seemed good wasn't after all.

Too many factors have to be taken into account, which includes the person who it is happening too, as persona comes into it.

Also there is the fact of what is good for one would be horrendous for another. Many people have done so much good when bad has happened. I.E.: Stephen Sutton. Another person wouldn't beable to cope.

I know I am bringing in other variables here, however they are all part of the same equation, type, in my view
 
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