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Jimmy Gordon

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Paul Faulkner
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In '06 I was part of a US led takeover of #avfc where possible new owner walked away only for deal to be back on 24hrs later.Hope #NFFC fans

Could do with media and US guys to have their say on all this and put some pressure on
 
Jimmy Gordon - 14/1/2017 07:48

Paul Faulkner
@GBChamberBoss
8h
In '06 I was part of a US led takeover of #avfc where possible new owner walked away only for deal to be back on 24hrs later.Hope #NFFC fans

Could do with media and US guys to have their say on all this and put some pressure on
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Like I've said already

Fawaz will spent this month selling our assets and moving the money back to Kuwait

Then he'll take whatever he can get from the Americans- £5m, £1m, whatever

They'll take it because they are unlikely to give a shit if we are relegated. They won't appreciate the difficulty or expense of getting out of league one, it will just delay their return on their investment. It will be worth years of misery for us to get the club at a fraction of the original £50m
 
The Americans won't buy a league 1 club, financing one promotion is risky and expensive enough. Plenty of big championship clubs like us around to buy.
 
CornishForest - 14/1/2017 08:00

The Americans won't buy a league 1 club, financing one promotion is risky and expensive enough. Plenty of big championship clubs like us around to buy.
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You might think that

But there are league one clubs and then there are league one clubs.

Someone like Walsall, I agree with you. Too much to do.

But Sheffield, Bolton, Forest- those are clubs with big canvases, big grounds and facilities that are PL standard or close to it.

No one spends their way out of league one. Promotion doesn't cost a fortune, you just need to get the attitude and formula right and pick up momentum.

This team we have right now- keep all the players, get the right manager and we could come straight back again. We won't have these players obviously, but that's what their "football experts" will be saying.

Overall though, the Americans have put too much money in already to accept all this and just walk away
 
Fawaz actually thinks that what he is doing is in the best interests of the club, really ? If he has that level of delusion, then a few nasty words are not going to convince him otherwise. We have to hit him in the pocket, with the level of football we are playing attendances are bound to plummet anyway, for the good of our club, I fear only empty stands will convince this owner to go. JJM will call in their £2.5 million loan and Fawaz won't have the money to pay it.

We'll soon see what an absolute liar Fawaz is. When we sold Burke, Fawaz said the money will be re invested. Nobody thinks that will happen, but come on Fawaz show us that wasn't just a money grab. If you think the position is bad now, Fawaz, just imagine how it will look in Kuwait if one of their nationals take Forest into administration.

What's the biggest failure Mr Hasawi, going cap in hand to the Americans or destroying the club you purported to support from childhood?
 
FF59 the very fact Fawaz is deciding what is best for our future in this situation is scary enough

People were worried about losing our history with Red Bull

We might end up as FC Nottingham Forest if he stays much longer

Not even the same club that won the European Cups or was managed by BC!
 
forestfire_59 - 14/1/2017 08:08

Fawaz actually thinks that what he is doing is in the best interests of the club, really ? If he has that level of delusion, then a few nasty words are not going to convince him otherwise. We have to hit him in the pocket, with the level of football we are playing attendances are bound to plummet anyway, for the good of our club, I fear only empty stands will convince this owner to go. JJM will call in their £2.5 million loan and Fawaz won't have the money to pay it.

We'll soon see what an absolute liar Fawaz is. When we sold Burke, Fawaz said the money will be re invested. Nobody thinks that will happen, but come on Fawaz show us that wasn't just a money grab. If you think the position is bad now, Fawaz, just imagine how it will look in Kuwait if one of their nationals take Forest into administration.

What's the biggest failure Mr Hasawi, going cap in hand to the Americans or destroying the club you purported to support from childhood?
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This has always been about ego and prestige in Kuwait for Fawaz. He has never been a fan. Having a PL side is what rich middle eastern playboys do. I believe this has always been about increasing his standing over there.

In my view, hurting his pocket through empty stands just won't work. He isn't putting any money in anymore. That's why he sold Burke. He clearly intends to fund the club through asset stripping, hence the loan recalls. Don't know what will happen when the assets are all gone- he probably hasn't thought about it.

Lots of people in the stands all shouting him down, all protesting and criticising him will hurt him far more. That will be seen as far as Kuwait. Empty stands? No one he cares about will notice
 
We need better and more aggressive media coverage. Start taking those responsible to task ' the people that destroyed Forest' sort of articles.
 
CornishForest - 14/1/2017 08:52

We need better and more aggressive media coverage. Start taking those responsible to task ' the people that destroyed Forest' sort of articles.
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Agree and think the supporters trust should be the lead imo.

Think we need to ramp on the family- email the king of whoever is in charge of the family to ask them to sort out their wayward son in law
 
forestfire_59 - 14/1/2017 08:08

Fawaz actually thinks that what he is doing is in the best interests of the club, really ? If he has that level of delusion, then a few nasty words are not going to convince him otherwise. We have to hit him in the pocket, with the level of football we are playing attendances are bound to plummet anyway, for the good of our club, I fear only empty stands will convince this owner to go. JJM will call in their £2.5 million loan and Fawaz won't have the money to pay it.

We'll soon see what an absolute liar Fawaz is. When we sold Burke, Fawaz said the money will be re invested. Nobody thinks that will happen, but come on Fawaz show us that wasn't just a money grab. If you think the position is bad now, Fawaz, just imagine how it will look in Kuwait if one of their nationals take Forest into administration.

What's the biggest failure Mr Hasawi, going cap in hand to the Americans or destroying the club you purported to support from childhood?
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On another thread you said that you thought Fawaz will now asset strip us and sell all of our best players and go into administration. If that's true, then he won't give a shit about empty stands, will he? Popes right, he's more likely to listen to angry crowds then empty Stands.
 
Taking a step back from the events of last night, the club has slowly being dying since the time of Maurice Roworth being the chairman.
The subsequent collection of committees, boards, owners, (life long fans or not) have not protected or took the club forward at all, yesterday was just the latest episode in dragging the club further down.

Unlike most, I never felt that long term, JJM was a good move for NFFC, and still don't.
They may have been an improvement on the current owner, almost certainly would have been short term, but we have had so many false starts in the last two decades. I had no faith they would have had the stamina or resources needed to turn the club around, and I always felt that 2 years further down the line, we would be right back where we are now, with a reluctant owner trying to sell the club, withholding funds, and asset stripping where he could, after all, how many times have we been here?

To me, the club needs a complete change of direction, because for whatever reason NFFC doesn't seem to be able to function as a stand alone operation. Maybe the club is too big for a 'single' owner?

Somebody like Red Bull would do for me right now, for a number of reason,
We would know from the start that they were not 'life long fans', but that we were just asset in their business. Nottingham Forest Football Club is an asset for anyone involved with it no matter what you think.
More crucially being in such a corporation would at last mean that we were financially secure.

A corporation like RB would also give the club a business structure that is able to operate within the modern day football structure. Something else we have sadly failed to grasp for years.
These things together would hopefully give the basis for the club to at last flourish on the pitch, which I think is what we all want.

I never started going to matches 36 years ago to be concerned with the off field activities, I didn't care then, and I should need to care now. I just wanted my club to win football games.

Right now I would love to get back to that position, and without the intervention of a major Corporate backer, I can't see that happening




 
We really are screwed now.

No one will touch us purchase wise.

No decent player will want to play for us.

Our own decent players will want to leave.

No decent manager will work for Fawaz.

Fawaz cannot run the club on a sustainable basis which he can afford because there isnt the infrastructure within the club to be abke to do so.

I cannot see anybway through this and ive had a good few hours now to dwell on it.

The only thing i think we can do is back PM and hope he can do something. Not holding my breath.
 
I remeber you slagging me off FF59 when I questioned the takeover and the Companies House documents

Seems I was right

I might start a Fred (pmsl) asking for an apology of the fantasists and do some point scoring while our club sinks :11:
 
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