This aint right, surely????? | Page 2 | Vital Football

This aint right, surely?????

#21
My first thought was that it was absolutely barmy. As mark has commented skybet, my betting app (I use Betfair) suspends betting on a game as soon as there's anything that might affect the score.

However there obviously is a potential issue.

Nevertheless if every betting company had a representative at the ground with the responsibility of suspending betting on the game as soon as a potential odds / payout event occurred that would not only put a stop to any problems but also probably boost attendances at games by a fair bit.
 
#25
Had one a few years ago where there was a fight after the half time whistle ended, someone got a red card but it wasn’t very obvious and you could only see it on a replay, the bookies didn’t pick up on it until 5 minutes later and you could trade out by the time the game kicked off again for a decent profit. About 10 years ago you could get very good in-play prices on markets with well known bookies like bet365 if you knew what you were looking for, think that’s all dead now.
 

PhilK66

Vital Squad Member
#26
Watching a movie on your mobile like "The Texas Chain Saw Massacre" might be less scary than watching our recent second half performances
 

Baghdad_Rob

Vital Squad Member
#27
What's wrong with that? Matches are shown on TV and internet live, so you can be at home and phone through a bet. What needs to change is the bookies being so greedy that they halt all bets on a game once it has begun.
TV coverage is always slightly delayed by what I guess to be around 15-20 second. Usually when I am cooking in the kitchen of a weekend and I am listening to commentary on the radio, when a goal is scored I usually have time to walk to the other room and see the goal being scored "live". Via the Internet the feed with be more delayed depending on your broadband speed and lag.
 

Tarian

Vital Youth Team
#28
Why should anyone have sympathy with betting companies who offer in game odds on trivia ?
If they don't like the speed of personal communications then they could easily change their event and payout criteria.

Presumption of innocence and freedom to text should come first.
 

Wayne.Kerr

Vital Football Hero
#29
As all juveniles text excessively, then the stewards better look out. They are used by drug gangs so why not betting syndicates. Why don't gamblers just listen to radio commentaries?
 

Baghdad_Rob

Vital Squad Member
#30
What exactly can the stewards do then? How can they know what any individual is actually doing on their mobile phone - it could be on line gambling, watching porn, playing a game or genuinely texting a friend or long lost granny in Australia. I recall a few seasons back when Scally got in a rage over anyone taking photos with their mobiles at home games or even using them to video goalmouth action. Mobiles have moved on - I would imagine 90 per cent of fans who go to games own one. The only way to stop this is to ban the use of phones totally at games or prevent them from being brought into the ground, as a banned item - you know the ones - similar to the flares that Charlton fans throw at Priestfield despite extensive searches by our pathetic stewards. Absolute load of bollox.
While people do things on their phones while the football is on, people shouldn't be looking down for the full 90 minutes. It is the extended length of time on the phone that suggests the person might be doing something "bad". The occasional text, phone call or watching the highlight of the last goal via Sky Sports is not going to raise a suspicion.

In terms of Scally getting upset about people taking photos then this might well be down to the agreement between clubs and the media who contractually are the only ones allowed to take pictures. If a person takes a couple of photos then I doubt there'd be a problem. The problem is if someone is taking a load of pictures to the point there is a suspicion that the person will be planning to sell them at expense of the official photographers.
 

Wayne.Kerr

Vital Football Hero
#31
While people do things on their phones while the football is on, people shouldn't be looking down for the full 90 minutes. It is the extended length of time on the phone that suggests the person might be doing something "bad". The occasional text, phone call or watching the highlight of the last goal via Sky Sports is not going to raise a suspicion.

In terms of Scally getting upset about people taking photos then this might well be down to the agreement between clubs and the media who contractually are the only ones allowed to take pictures. If a person takes a couple of photos then I doubt there'd be a problem. The problem is if someone is taking a load of pictures to the point there is a suspicion that the person will be planning to sell them at expense of the official photographers.
Thank you Judge Jeffreys and master chef
 

Detritus

Vital Reserves Team
#32
What exactly can the stewards do then? How can they know what any individual is actually doing on their mobile phone - it could be on line gambling, watching porn, playing a game or genuinely texting a friend or long lost granny in Australia. I recall a few seasons back when Scally got in a rage over anyone taking photos with their mobiles at home games or even using them to video goalmouth action. Mobiles have moved on - I would imagine 90 per cent of fans who go to games own one. The only way to stop this is to ban the use of phones totally at games or prevent them from being brought into the ground, as a banned item - you know the ones - similar to the flares that Charlton fans throw at Priestfield despite extensive searches by our pathetic stewards. Absolute load of bollox.
They can't. They're told to keep an eye out and then try to monitor the person. The people likely to be doing it are lone people clearly more intent on their phones than the match.

As to the flares there's only so much you can check. It was found that smoke bombs were being smuggled in in Pringle cans and flares were in Subway subs. Would you want to search your average football fan's underwear? Or take the Stevenage route of checking ladies bras?
 

Detritus

Vital Reserves Team
#33
Slightly off subject but I remember a few seasons back, a steward told the lady in front of me that she could not take photos (home to Accrington) in the ground due to the Data Protection Act.
Not DPA - the EFL hold copyright on all football matches. Videoing the match is therefore breaching it. Most stewards would let photographing go. Blatant videoing has to be pulled up on because it's the Club that get fined.