The Plastic Crisis/Environment Thread

mike_field said:
Some absolute nugget has cut down another tree.

www.bbc.co.uk

Toby Carvery owner admits cutting down ancient Enfield oak tree

The felling of a much-loved and centuries-old north London oak tree was initially reported to police.
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Mitchells & Butlers - a toby carve up
hefty fines you'd hope

www.bbc.co.uk

Enfield oak tree felled by Toby Carvery 'had hundreds of years to live'

The ancient oak felled in north London was classified as a "fine specimen" last year, documents show.
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Saw that today, finding it quite curious nobody is naming the company that said it was dead when the Council claim otherwise.

Yet equally, as leasehold, why did M&B not contact landlord as even a courtesy.

Either way, it's certainly a carve up.
 
mike_field said:
Some absolute nugget has cut down another tree.

www.bbc.co.uk

Toby Carvery owner admits cutting down ancient Enfield oak tree

The felling of a much-loved and centuries-old north London oak tree was initially reported to police.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk

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The house we have just left had ten beech trees that we planted when we bought it 28 years ago that formed the left side boundary of the garden.
Word reached me last night from the old neighbours that the new owners have chopped them down.
Bastards.
 
As someone who had two wood burners at the house we have just left, and will almost certainly have them when we manage to find a new home im delighted by this news
However it reinforces the impression that this useless government hasn't got a clue what it is doing
www.dailymail.co.uk

Wood-burning stoves WILL be allowed in new homes

Wood-burning stoves will be allowed in new-build homes across England, the Government has confirmed - despite concerns over their impact on air pollution and carbon emission.
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The Fear said:
www.theguardian.com

World in $1.5tn ‘plastics crisis’ hitting health from infancy to old age, report warns

Plastic production has increased more than 200 times since 1950 and hits health at every stage from extraction to disposal, says review in the Lancet
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Truly depressing.
"More than 98% of plastics are made from fossil oil, gas and coal. The energy-intensive production process drives the climate crisis by releasing the equivalent of 2bn tonnes of CO2 a year – "
It's when I see figures like the above quoted that I look at our figure of 487 million tonnes per year from all sources, not just plastic production, and falling at a rate of 4% per annum that I look at the rubbish that Ed Milliband spouts about 2030, and you can see why we have some of the most expensive electricity in the world.
It's makes us totally uncompetitive industrially, and places a very heavy burden on tax payers and consumers.
I know every bit helps, but, with vested interest groups such as those quoted in the article what we contribute is peanuts.
Sadly, the damage is done. If we never produced another piece of plastic ever, the stuff is already out there in the food chain and waterways and oceans.
 
wittonite said:
Truly depressing.
"More than 98% of plastics are made from fossil oil, gas and coal. The energy-intensive production process drives the climate crisis by releasing the equivalent of 2bn tonnes of CO2 a year – "
It's when I see figures like the above quoted that I look at our figure of 487 million tonnes per year from all sources, not just plastic production, and falling at a rate of 4% per annum that I look at the rubbish that Ed Milliband spouts about 2030, and you can see why we have some of the most expensive electricity in the world.
It's makes us totally uncompetitive industrially, and places a very heavy burden on tax payers and consumers.
I know every bit helps, but, with vested interest groups such as those quoted in the article what we contribute is peanuts.
Sadly, the damage is done. If we never produced another piece of plastic ever, the stuff is already out there in the food chain and waterways and oceans.
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The last line is the truth of it isn't it. Too late. And when you look at how we separate our rubbish for recycling you realise just how futile it is and what a waste of time - despite our best intentions - especially when you find out most of it is then sent to be burned which is now showing to be a dirtier fuel than coal and oil.
 
Good. Our nearest neighbours are beekeepers and I have been buying their honey.
It's beautiful, and much better than I remember supermarket honey too be.
 
An interesting topic popped up on the radio this morning when it was said that it costs a £ billion pounds a year to switch off wind turbines during windy weather when the turbines produce more electricity than the infrastructure can handle.

To me, it sounds like something else the government has jumped into without much thought as to infrastructure, "oh let's appease these green loonies," we'll stick up some wind turbines that'll shut 'em up for a bit.

Electric car sgoing mainstream before any sort of infrastructure was in place, now it turns out wind turbines sound almost as useless in the real world.
 
Villan57 said:
An interesting topic popped up on the radio this morning when it was said that it costs a £ billion pounds a year to switch off wind turbines during windy weather when the turbines produce more electricity than the infrastructure can handle.

To me, it sounds like something else the government has jumped into without much thought as to infrastructure, "oh let's appease these green loonies," we'll stick up some wind turbines that'll shut 'em up for a bit.

Electric car sgoing mainstream before any sort of infrastructure was in place, now it turns out wind turbines sound almost as useless in the real world.
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Interestingly, one of the reasons our energy bills are so high is that they include a green energy subsidy.
 
Villan57 said:
An interesting topic popped up on the radio this morning when it was said that it costs a £ billion pounds a year to switch off wind turbines during windy weather when the turbines produce more electricity than the infrastructure can handle.

To me, it sounds like something else the government has jumped into without much thought as to infrastructure, "oh let's appease these green loonies," we'll stick up some wind turbines that'll shut 'em up for a bit.

Electric car sgoing mainstream before any sort of infrastructure was in place, now it turns out wind turbines sound almost as useless in the real world.
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I would love to know how countries like those in Scandinavia operate their systems because they have had wind for years.
I'll bet they haven't got a total fuckin idiot like Red Ed in charge of implementing everything.
Your correct mate, it's just another poorly thought out solution implemented just like HS2 that will cost consumers an absolute fortune to use and leave another huge mess for someone else to clean up.
 
wittonite said:
I would love to know how countries like those in Scandinavia operate their systems because they have had wind for years.
I'll bet they haven't got a total fuckin idiot like Red Ed in charge of implementing everything.
Your correct mate, it's just another poorly thought out solution implemented just like HS2 that will cost consumers an absolute fortune to use and leave another huge mess for someone else to clean up.
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Pandering to the minority has become the norm with all governments, and token gestures to appease voters. Nobody in the real world will use HS2 or wants bloody wind turbines stuck in fields next to them, but they'll go ahead and keep wasting money to get a few extra votes
 
It needs looking at, up to about 40% now - as has been said it's about the fore thought. Proper battery storage would solve the turbine issue, cut costs, and really feed back to the consumer.

But again we have to address the gas led strike price first and given renewables now account for over 50%, Ofgem could very easily begin ratchetting the price down even if it was just starting with times of the day being lowered.
 
wittonite said:
I would love to know how countries like those in Scandinavia operate their systems because they have had wind for years.
I'll bet they haven't got a total fuckin idiot like Red Ed in charge of implementing everything.
Your correct mate, it's just another poorly thought out solution implemented just like HS2 that will cost consumers an absolute fortune to use and leave another huge mess for someone else to clean up.
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Air freshener - oh hum I'll get my coat 🧥 😁 🧥
 
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